Simon Paynton
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 3 months ago
The article given, says: “As to the more exciting explanations, I doubt that religion causes stupidity if only because some of the most brilliant people of history, such as Isaac Newton, were highly religious like most of their contemporaries. … In short, discussing correlations between IQ and religiosity without a grasp of the relevant…[Read more]
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RE: Newton. Of course he was religious, the alternative was prison or death like with Galileo. FFS Simon, take a look at the most religious countries and US states and tell me how great their lives are. Maybe you need a trip to Mississippi or Saudi and chat with all the geniuses there.
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 3 months ago
Do you have a source?
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The Fallacy of Science vs. Religion The atheists’ frequent claim that science and religion are mutually exclusive is demonstrably false. If atheists were as “rational” and “intelligent” as they are always claiming, they would not constantly resort to mendacity. Science pursues truth. The list of scientists as men and women faith is long…-
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That’s the constant atheist arrogance, that you’re so very intelligent you couldn’t possibly be wrong. Please. The Unabomber is a genius. He’s doing life in prison for murdering people after living in a filthy rathole cabin.
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The article given, says: “As to the more exciting explanations, I doubt that religion causes stupidity if only because some of the most brilliant people of history, such as Isaac Newton, were highly religious like most of their contemporaries. … In short, discussing correlations between IQ and religiosity without a grasp of the relevant…
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RE: Newton. Of course he was religious, the alternative was prison or death like with Galileo. FFS Simon, take a look at the most religious countries and US states and tell me how great their lives are. Maybe you need a trip to Mississippi or Saudi and chat with all the geniuses there.
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we can do this all day, LOL
https://www.livescience.com/59361-why-are-atheists-generally-more-intelligent.html
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Simon Paynton posted an update 5 years, 3 months ago
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 3 months ago
It’s a point of view. I think it’s a fallacy that atheists are more intelligent than religious people. But there is a difference in world views. I believe that an atheist might see religion as a great lumbering machinery that just gets in the way of real life. I think it’s just a different way of seeing the world.
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Well.. what you “think” is hardly evidence since every study I have seen concludes the opposite. Intelligent persons don’t fall for scams or continuously get duped by irrational nonsense.
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Do you have a source?
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The Fallacy of Science vs. Religion The atheists’ frequent claim that science and religion are mutually exclusive is demonstrably false. If atheists were as “rational” and “intelligent” as they are always claiming, they would not constantly resort to mendacity. Science pursues truth. The list of scientists as men and women faith is long…
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That’s the constant atheist arrogance, that you’re so very intelligent you couldn’t possibly be wrong. Please. The Unabomber is a genius. He’s doing life in prison for murdering people after living in a filthy rathole cabin.
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The article given, says: “As to the more exciting explanations, I doubt that religion causes stupidity if only because some of the most brilliant people of history, such as Isaac Newton, were highly religious like most of their contemporaries. … In short, discussing correlations between IQ and religiosity without a grasp of the relevant…
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RE: Newton. Of course he was religious, the alternative was prison or death like with Galileo. FFS Simon, take a look at the most religious countries and US states and tell me how great their lives are. Maybe you need a trip to Mississippi or Saudi and chat with all the geniuses there.
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we can do this all day, LOL
https://www.livescience.com/59361-why-are-atheists-generally-more-intelligent.html
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Agnostic Carl Sagan differed with you. He said, ” “Science is not only compatible with spirituality, it is a profound source of spirituality.” (Demon Haunted World, page 29)
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Spirituality does not have to be religious. You have never heard someone say: “I am not religious but I am spiritual”?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 25th July 2021 in the forum
Sunday School 5 years, 3 months agoTheEncogitationer wrote:
the English Language Arts NotebookThese books sound really good. Do you think a person could really learn the basics of these subjects, by reading them? Is the writing good?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 25th July 2021 in the forum
Sunday School 5 years, 3 months agoUnseen wrote:
Even Einstein’s theories can be explained at a high level in plain language to people of average intelligence. As one gets deeper into it, of course, eyes start glazing over. However, with the fractal theory of consciousness, I fear eyes will glaze over right from the start.People want the world to be simple. But it’s not. Exp…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 25th July 2021 in the forum
Sunday School 5 years, 3 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Five good reasons to reject Moral Philosophy.I agree substantially with the author, Ronnie de Sousa, that much of conventional moral philosophy is the biggest pile of godawful junk I’ve ever seen. When he says he wants to reject Kantianism and the mono-track of utilitarianism, that’s a good place to start.
At the…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 18th July 2021 in the forum
Sunday School 5 years, 3 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
A look at the philosophy of David Hume.This article is beautifully written, by Sara Papic. I could take a leaf out of her book, for my own. Perhaps her writing is a little bit bland, and could do with some more colour.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Are they all just grifters? in the forum Small Talk 5 years, 3 months ago
@jakelafort – I agree with you, using the term POC is as if white people are the standard, and everyone else is strange or special. Perhaps non-white would be a more neutral term. But then, it sounds like it’s saying someone is a non-person.
Is it right to find a catch-all term for everyone who isn’t white? I guess like you say, it’s ne…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic England football in the forum Small Talk 5 years, 4 months ago
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 4 months ago
You’re conflating wokeness, which is a good thing in principle, with cancel culture, which is toxic. Most people do that. When someone criticises wokeness, they’re not usually criticising social liberation and equal rights. They’re criticising cancel culture. Everyone hates cancel culture except for those who indulge in it. It makes…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 4 months ago
Cancel culture is counter-productive because all it does is create enemies.
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 4 months ago
I don’t see how you can defend it on the grounds that “everyone does it too”. That doesn’t make something OK. Yes, there will be a response when someone says something outrageous – but what response is the best one? Unnecessary oppression will result in resentment. Rational debate can win people round and keep them there.
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Simon, you are deluded in thinking that there is a free market place of ideas where rational debate ultimately wins in most things entirely on their own merits without activism and public pressure. As though segregation and black rights ever would have advanced without activism and people having to pay a social price. In the age of social…
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Cancel culture is counter-productive because all it does is create enemies.
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So Simon, it’s better to stay silent so you don’t rock the boat and let the people on top continue discriminating and perpetuating injustices? If people played by your rule book we’d still be living in a colonialist world with slavery, Western women in the kitchen with no vote and a lot of feudal landlords. I cannot even tell what it is that…
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You’re conflating wokeness, which is a good thing in principle, with cancel culture, which is toxic. Most people do that. When someone criticises wokeness, they’re not usually criticising social liberation and equal rights. They’re criticising cancel culture. Everyone hates cancel culture except for those who indulge in it. It makes…
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 4 months ago
You’re right in that extremist bullies of all shades engage in it, but perhaps only the left is honest about using it, so they get called out for it. Also, I’m sure you’re right that the enemies of the left use it as a stick to beat them with. But they deserve it. Nobody likes being gagged and told what they are allowed to say or think, on…[Read more]
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Simon, human beings always pay a social consequence for saying stupid shit. If a politician stood up in parliament and said “I shit on the Queen and the Union Jack” you can imagine they would be out of a job quickly (just as it would happen in a company). You would also find people fiercely responding at dinner tables, social clubs, sport…
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I don’t see how you can defend it on the grounds that “everyone does it too”. That doesn’t make something OK. Yes, there will be a response when someone says something outrageous – but what response is the best one? Unnecessary oppression will result in resentment. Rational debate can win people round and keep them there.
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Simon, you are deluded in thinking that there is a free market place of ideas where rational debate ultimately wins in most things entirely on their own merits without activism and public pressure. As though segregation and black rights ever would have advanced without activism and people having to pay a social price. In the age of social…
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Cancel culture is counter-productive because all it does is create enemies.
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So Simon, it’s better to stay silent so you don’t rock the boat and let the people on top continue discriminating and perpetuating injustices? If people played by your rule book we’d still be living in a colonialist world with slavery, Western women in the kitchen with no vote and a lot of feudal landlords. I cannot even tell what it is that…
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You’re conflating wokeness, which is a good thing in principle, with cancel culture, which is toxic. Most people do that. When someone criticises wokeness, they’re not usually criticising social liberation and equal rights. They’re criticising cancel culture. Everyone hates cancel culture except for those who indulge in it. It makes…
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 4 months ago
So Jake, you’re saying that cancelling people is bad when the right wing or religious people do it, but good when the left does it? Is that not hypocritical?
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 4 months ago
I think it’s spiteful and vindictive, whoever does it.
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Davis you are correct.
I suppose cancel culture is a manifestation of tribalism. The greater the power of the dominant tribe the greater the backlash against individuals who oppose or act against the power. Calling it cancel culture is just a new wrapper to express the outrage of the far right against the subordinates. Dominant groups do…
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So Jake, you’re saying that cancelling people is bad when the right wing or religious people do it, but good when the left does it? Is that not hypocritical?
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Simon Paynton posted a new activity comment 5 years, 4 months ago
Michael Shermer is espousing my ideas, for example, the “pressure to thrive” in this article https://henrycenter.tiu.edu/2021/03/can-science-discover-moral-truths/ and elsewhere. On the one hand, this is good, and to be welcomed. On the other hand, it means he can use his advantage as an already-published author to beat me to the finishing…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton posted an update 5 years, 4 months ago
If Michael Shermer is going to publish my ideas, he needs to do the right thing and credit where he got them from. Us little people can’t get a book published “just like that”.
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Details Simon, details…
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Michael Shermer is espousing my ideas, for example, the “pressure to thrive” in this article https://henrycenter.tiu.edu/2021/03/can-science-discover-moral-truths/ and elsewhere. On the one hand, this is good, and to be welcomed. On the other hand, it means he can use his advantage as an already-published author to beat me to the finishing…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 20th June 2021 in the forum
Sunday School 5 years, 4 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
What constitutes a flourishing human life?The argument of the author, Hrishikesh Joshi, that flourishing lies in human reasoning, and that speaking our minds allows for greater reasoning, and therefore flourishing – is neat. But I don’t buy the angle that flourishing lies (only) in greater reasoning abilities. I…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 30th May 2021 in the forum
Sunday School 5 years, 5 months agoYou’re right, it’s so difficult that it’s not fair. There are so many people proclaiming so many different versions of why you’re going to hell for harmless things, that you give up listening (and become an atheist, and work our your own version of right and wrong).
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