Simon Paynton

jakelafort wrote:
Oh and i should adduce cuz what the deuce that Goodall herself was a theist.

Link Stink.

This should be the article i intended.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-874472

I am glad humans learn. Too bad it was not on the level of a chimp. Eu continues to fund PA says this article in spite of refusing to alter the curriculum. Yea shit is gonna change in Gaza/West Bank real quick with the most vile indoctrination imaginable. Read it. It aint long.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism

Enco,

What is the difference between a humman and a chimp?

One wants to free Palestine and the other wants to free a banana. One is monkey see, monkey do. The other is Monkey hear, monkey believe. One sticks his tool in an ant mound and comes up with ants. The other sticks his tool some other place and comes up with crabs.

Yeah there is…[Read more]

Jake,

You don’t have to believe that humans are a special Divine Creation to see that the apes didn’t write a book or make a documentary on Jane Goodall instead of vice-versa.

Only a small difference in DNA, but what a difference a DNA makes.

Reg and Fellow Unbelievers,

“Groupthink in science isn’t a problem; it’s a myth.”

Science isn’t groupthink, but scientists can and do engage in groupthink and delusion like other humans.

Witness Francis Collins, who, though he headed the Human Genome Project, somehow still embraces the 3000-year-old groupthink called Creationism, not to ment…[Read more]

Some new science on gene editing…..

Summary from AI;

Most rare diseases aren’t “rare” in aggregate — 400 million people worldwide have one.
But each specific mutation is rare, so big pharma won’t touch them because the economics are hopeless.

Liu’s new approach (PERT) is a mutation-agnostic gene-editing engine for diseases caused by prematur…[Read more]

Oh and i should adduce cuz what the deuce that Goodall herself was a theist. I was disappointed to learn of her blind spot. But there it was. And the leak on her head was a reference to Leakey. Not saying Richard Leakey had a big giant prostate and no matter how much he shook the last dribble ended up in his…

That was not autobiographical. Ok…[Read more]

Lets call it group-think. Come on man.

Are scientists as vulnerable to that oh so human attribute? Probably not but it aint exactly inexistent.

The thing has never left me is how i would sit there in elementary school through some boring classes on how we homo sapiens were unique in the animal kingdom. Yeah BS i thought. We aint giving other…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Scientists can and do cling to pet theories.

Admitting error is the ideal but defending one’s career is the reality. The embarrassment cost is tiny, but the career costs can be enormous.

There have been scientists who continue to push false and even harmful theories even after they’ve been completely discredited, s…[Read more]

Personally, I disagree somewhat with the heading that “Groupthink in science isn’t a problem; it’s a myth.”

In principle, yes. In practice, Groupthink happens whenever careers, funding, prestige, or consensus incentives push people to ‘not rock the boat’. Science has mechanisms to counter this, but those mechanisms are imperfect.…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Groupthink in science isn’t a problem; it’s a myth.

From my experience, if you want to convince a scientist of new ideas, they are often willing to listen, as long as you come with a convincing argument.  I find this is very different from politics or religion.

The enemy is where someone doesn’t like to admit they…[Read more]

This is going to be a hugely successful album. Millions of plays already on Spotify. Not my usual scene but the musicianship is top class.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lux_(Rosal%C3%ADa_album)

There’s no evidence that a cartel vs government conflict is directly causing measles vaccine supply problems in Mexico. But cartel control of territory does indirectly make healthcare delivery harder in some regions. So the relationship is indirect and structural, not the main driver. Public-health workers sometimes avoid cartel-dominated areas. T…[Read more]

Reg,

You got much closer to answering the questions, although PopeBeanie’s UNICEF link did also link to a Conversation article detailing the criteria for elimination status.

https://theconversation.com/canada-loses-its-official-measles-free-status-and-the-us-will-follow-soon-as-vaccination-rates-fall-269090

Thank you for clarifying that per…[Read more]

Did I not answer your questions? Oh, I didn’t! I would call them secondary to the main questions about R nought, the anti-vax movement, and flaws or laziness in human cognition.

@PopeBeanie – Yes, you are correct with the basics of ‘R Nought (12-18). But it does not explain why Canada lost elimination status before the US. But elimination statu…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
This story prompts more questions than answers.

I would start with the primary causes and facts, first.

The “R nought” factor for measles is estimated to be between 12 and 18, meaning on average in a fully susceptible population, an infected person will infect 12 to 18 other people. This leads to an estimate that a…[Read more]

Reg,

Canada beats the USA to become the first country in the Americas to lose its measles elimination status.

This story prompts more questions than answers.

Why would Canada lose it’s elimination status for Measles before the U S.? Would it be because of Canada’s lower population and hence greater per capita infection?

And why would a…[Read more]

..or at least a non sequitur….as most people who use the Galileo Gambit aren’t making a formal logical argument….it appeals not to reason but to ego, making it less an argument and more a psychological defense mechanism.

Yes, I guess it is more of a cognitive bias than a logical fallacy.