Jim

Have a great week!

@ Anyone Curious about Who’s Buying Your Search History on Amazon

Do a few searches for something you’re really not interested in (snowshoes? solar birdbath fountains) and then watch the advertising suggestions that start happening.

“The Spotify conspiracy theories”
No surprize here. ‘Search’ has long been monitized.
The first result on google or DuckDuckGo is always a paid result. On reddit, the second post on any thread is an ad. every 10th is also an ad.
Ebay commission is 10%, but for an extra % (you set the %), you get prefered placement. The only places I haven’t seen…[Read more]

Have a great week everyone!

Simon Paynton wrote:
The proposition has a truth value: true or false.

A truth value is a linguistic/logical utterance or statement about the truth.

You’re c0nfusing statements about the world, which can have a truth value, with what they are statements about the world, which is truth itself.

Truth is not a construct.

Reality, however, maybe?

Or are they inextricably linked?

Unseen wrote:
the truth being that which is the case.

Surely reality is that which is the case.  Truth is a quality of a proposition.  The proposition has a truth value: true or false.

Strega wrote:
Truth doesn’t have to be logical and realistic. Fiction does.

But truth / reality is logical, that’s one of its properties.  If you pull out facts from here, there, and everywhere, you find that they are all consistent and sometimes form patterns.

Simon Paynton wrote:

Unseen wrote:
The simplest definition of “the truth” is “the truth is that which is the case (whether you know it or not.”

Surely it means “that proposition that corresponds with that which is the case” or “that proposition that is consistent with that which is the case”.

A true proposition is one that corresponds wit…[Read more]

“Truth doesn’t have to be logical and realistic. Fiction does.”

Truth is not dependent on belief or opinion.

Good fiction has to be logical and realistic or in some way cause the reader, listener or viewer to suspend disbelief. Fiction in ideology/cults and religions are clearly not tied to the above strictures.

Truth doesn’t have to be logical and realistic. Fiction does.

“This is shorter: “Truth” is a human concept, otherwise irrelevant in a universe before any consciousness in it has emerged”

That is a variation on the introduction to philosophy tree in the forest quip.

How about some truth quotes?

If you insist.

Truth serves nobody so nobody serves the truth.

Truth is not aesthetic unlike the des…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
The simplest definition of “the truth” is “the truth is that which is the case (whether you know it or not.”

Surely it means “that proposition that corresponds with that which is the case” or “that proposition that is consistent with that which is the case”.

2-2=4 (base 10) was true before the universe came into being and will remain so after the last atom falls apart.

The simplest definition of “the truth” is “the truth is that which is the case (whether you know it or not.”

Simon Paynton wrote:
We can’t have truth without a knower.

Unseen wrote:
The philosophical question is not about what your life means to you.

I hope the following, self-referencing logic doesn’t sound too convoluted.

We could just presume there’s a consciousness or two, e.g. God and/or humans, that know truth. But sans either, before the word “…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
If something is true, it’s true even if no one knows it or will ever know it. If no one had ever discovered the Higgs boson, the thing would still exist.

Yes, but is truth the same as existence?  Surely truth is a quality of a measurement of existence.  This measurement is an accurate representation of existence; or not.  This prop…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
Exactly.  We can’t have truth without a knower.  What is truth without someone to judge it?  When I say, I ought to help this old lady across the road, I am saying I feel I ought to do it.

If something is true, it’s true even if no one knows it or will ever know it. If no one had ever discovered the Higgs boson, the thin…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
I believe that meaning in life is when things affect my goals, so those things are significant or have meaning for me.  I attend to those things that affect my goals and that therefore have meaning to me.

The philosophical question is not about what your life means to you.

The meaning of life?  What does that mean?  The pu…

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PopeBeanie wrote:
We’re just the result of billions of years of accidental survival, and replication, that happen to feel profound. Which I’m happy with.

Exactly.  We can’t have truth without a knower.  What is truth without someone to judge it?  When I say, I ought to help this old lady across the road, I am saying I feel I ought to do it.