tom sarbeck
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic If there is no God, how to explain mathematics? in the forum Science 7 years, 10 months ago
Sheeesh, all this because Georges LeMaitre wanted to support Genesis and fancied that he did it when he used the “anomaly” PART of what Edwin Hubble said.
I understand that two decades later he asked the Pope to stop bragging.
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic If there is no God, how to explain mathematics? in the forum Science 7 years, 10 months ago
Mathematics has no need for anything physical.*(see below)
That people use it to model physical phenomena gives them the burden of proof: Can they rely on their model, and if so how far?
Atheists who allow anything metaphysical into the discussion aren’t paying attention.
Philosophers who haven’t studied the universe are unwise to take part in…[Read more]
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic If there is no God, how to explain mathematics? in the forum Science 7 years, 10 months ago
Unseen, adding 112 and 545 in octal or hex is also a snap.
No column adds to more than 7 so none requires a carry.
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic If there is no God, how to explain mathematics? in the forum Science 7 years, 10 months ago
Unseen, do you know what else doesn’t pass the snicker test?
Aliens.
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic If there is no God, how to explain mathematics? in the forum Science 7 years, 11 months ago
Has anyone noticed the many attempts in this discussion to attach something concocted by humankind (math, rules, limits, logic, etc) to the universe?
The universe pays no attention.
Humankind have also—again and again—concocted and tried to attach to the universe a beginning and an end.
There too, the universe pays no attention.
Do you fee…[Read more]
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic If there is no God, how to explain mathematics? in the forum Science 7 years, 11 months ago
jake, “math is in fabric of the universe….”?
Where did you find this ‘fabric’?
Does it, like the relativists’ fabric, resemble a sort of trampoline?
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic If there is no God, how to explain mathematics? in the forum Science 7 years, 11 months ago
Pure potentiality = Anything can happen. What would be there to place limits on what might happen?
Without humankind the mathematical would not be there but the physical would be there.
The rub is that without humankind, there would be no one to know what limits there are that can be taken away so that anything can happen.
Two probable limits…[Read more]
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic If there is no God, how to explain mathematics? in the forum Science 7 years, 11 months ago
Another stab.
Reality is not all mathematical; it’s all physical.
Without humankind, neither mathematics nor rules exist.
Humankind uses mathematics and rules to approximate reality.
Define pure potentiality, without mention of humankind’s rules.
To say anything that’s possible according to the rules can happen places rules over reali…[Read more]
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic For Starters… in the forum
Consciousness 7 years, 11 months agoYeah, what if consciousness DOES HAVE A USE FOR the species that appear to possess it?
Oh, HORRORS! And we heard that genes are selfish ! ! !
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic For Starters… in the forum
Consciousness 7 years, 11 months agoPB, your analysis merits some thinking.
But those cotton-picking habits of speech….
”…is consciousness just a byproduct of intelligence or did (does?) it serve a purpose for the species that appear to possess it?”
I would write “…is consciousness just a byproduct of intelligence or did (does?) it have a use for the species that appea…[Read more]
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Politics 7 years, 11 months agoHere in the former colonies, my bumper sticker view is:
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tom sarbeck posted a new activity comment 7 years, 11 months ago
Any use that results in a being’s wanting to put the consciousness to that same use again would have evolutionary value.
Does self-amusement count? Does it have a number system: 1, 2, 3, …, n?-
Humor in general seems to be useful in a social environment. Maybe self-amusement stems from that and is useful just like an in-mind rehearsal before taking it public.
Specifically, when it comes to laughter, it seems to be a way to communicate that one is thinking of or experiencing something that is expected to be “very interesting, if not fun”…[Read more]
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tom sarbeck posted a new activity comment 7 years, 11 months ago
Go out on a limb, pb, and answer it y’self.
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tom sarbeck posted an update in the group
Consciousness 7 years, 11 months agoDoes consciousness have a use? (a USE, not a purpose.)
An analogy: a hammer has a use, to drive nails. Without nails, would hammers exist? I think not, so I would start with Does consciousness has a use?-
Does self-amusement count?
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Go out on a limb, pb, and answer it y’self.
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I will. When needed, we always have time to think and wind up a position or two, mate. 🙂
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As I currently think of consciousness as an “emergent” character, I’m not sure how precisely to answer that, other than to say that ALL brain processes result from evolutionary tuning. How those processes together are “used” is most probably understood insofar as to how they enhance individual survivabilty, and species survivability, including…[Read more]
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Any use that results in a being’s wanting to put the consciousness to that same use again would have evolutionary value.
Does self-amusement count? Does it have a number system: 1, 2, 3, …, n?-
Humor in general seems to be useful in a social environment. Maybe self-amusement stems from that and is useful just like an in-mind rehearsal before taking it public.
Specifically, when it comes to laughter, it seems to be a way to communicate that one is thinking of or experiencing something that is expected to be “very interesting, if not fun”…[Read more]
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic Quantum Mechanics – Pilot Wave proposals in the forum
Science — the kind that requires evidence and reason. 7 years, 11 months agoPB, you ask softball questions. I play hardball and ignore them.
You want fair?
Click on the Chris Reeves article I linked to a while ago. To the right on the page you will see is a menu on which you can start your own personal journey.
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic Quantum Mechanics – Pilot Wave proposals in the forum
Science — the kind that requires evidence and reason. 7 years, 11 months agoThis discussion on the kind of science that requires evidence and reason is becoming a discussion on science fiction. No thanks, PB, Reg and Robert.
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tom sarbeck replied to the topic Quantum Mechanics – Pilot Wave proposals in the forum
Science — the kind that requires evidence and reason. 7 years, 11 months agoAw-ww, Beanie. Quantum entanglement? Stuff popping in and out of existence?
Einstein did not start the anti-empiricism of our time but with his thought-experiments, his hatred of laboratory work, and his arbitrary limit on the speed of light, he gave scifi a boost. Isaac Newton’s religiosity may have blinded him to a speed of gravity that is o…[Read more]
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