Science — the kind that requires evidence and reason.
Mommy, do the udder moo cows eat meat?
February 10, 2022 at 7:54 pm #41173
@theencogitationer – This may be just idle speculation, but I’ve heard it said that part of the Reason the Romans persecuted Christians is because they heard this talk of eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Jesus and thought it was a cannibal cult.
But it is a cannibalistic cult. Catholics MUST believe that the bread and wine becomes the body and blood of their lord Jesus Christ. It is NOT symbolic as many Catholics insist. It is a core belief of their Faith. They cannot call themselves Catholic if they do not accept this. I mentioned this in another post recently about an exchange I had with some demented Catholic sect who called to my house. They wondered if I really was a true atheist……you know, like deep down you actually deny Jesus?
I then followed up by telling them that Catholics cannot be vegetarians if they take communion. This got them angry at me (which is always my intention) so I asked them to point out where I was wrong. Have you not read the Gospel of John where this is all explained, I asked? which leads to angrier glares. OK, let me quote it for you:
Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.
For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.
Is that not clear enough?
Proverb 16:32 about being slow to anger is pretty clear too, don’t you think?
Silence. Blank stares. Time for me to see if they like these apples……
You cannot be a vegetarian and a Catholic. If you don’t think the bread and wine is the flesh and blood of the son of the Creator of the Universe then you are not true Catholics. At least not in the way I am true to my atheism. At best you are a little bit Protestant. You all seem angry enough to be anyway.
(Yes, I was talking to Irish Catholics!)February 10, 2022 at 8:00 pm #41174
@popebeanie – Reg, I hope I haven’t detracted from anyone’s interest in this awesome topic!
I am doing a good enough job at derailing it myself. Your line of thought is admirable and elevates the post. Keep it coming!February 10, 2022 at 10:52 pm #41177
Reg, your NY Times link is blocked.
I have a hunch that long term and too late there will be a world shift against current animal husbandry in favor of lab grown meat. If so it will be self-interest that is the impetus. We as a species don’t even care about genocides. No way as a species we care about other animals.
Good anecdote about Catholics on the topic of eating Jesus. It makes me wonder how many quips/incites to illustrate the absurdity of religion… It has to be in the thousands. Perhaps a compilation would be valuable. Although i have thought for decades that there is a tremendous hole in atheist literature. We need encyclopedias of the harms caused by religion. I will stop myself from giving a diatribe.February 10, 2022 at 11:43 pm #41181February 11, 2022 at 4:31 am #41195
Thanks for the link Reg. Booker seems a decent guy although he said Justin Sinclair instead of Upton and i was very hurt with that…very very hurt…February 11, 2022 at 11:45 am #41198
Belle Rose wrote:
😂 Do you think it’s possible to be healthy eating as a vegan?
Possible, yes. Easy, only if you are ready to really obsess over what you eat.
So carnivores don’t care what they eat? I know several vegans, some of whom are vegan for over 30 years and they seldom talk about it or food unless prompted. Admittedly I also know a few recent “converts” who obsess over the fact the are now vegans rather than obsessing over what they actually eat.February 11, 2022 at 5:41 pm #41199
Pope, thanks for the link. I’ve only read his seminal work. A few years ago i heard Frans de Waal on the radio discussing Mama’s Last Hug. Did you read it. If so your opinion?February 12, 2022 at 6:31 pm #41213
I always thought of human flesh as “nature’s perfect food,” with all the needed dietary necessities in perfect balance.
Until you get pat the catchy ad slogan and read the disclaimer
provided by Mother Nature which says: “While Supplies Last. Not available in Antarctica, the Seven Seas, or space.” 😁February 12, 2022 at 6:36 pm #41214
You are semantically correct, but I think the Romans might have feared that the Christians would add Caesar Salad to their menu.😁February 12, 2022 at 8:00 pm #41217February 13, 2022 at 3:23 am #41218
UnseenParticipantFebruary 13, 2022 at 6:06 pm #41225
Obviously, The Judean People’s Front-er-Judean Popular People’s Front-er-The Popular Front of Judea-er-The People’s Front of Judea should have did some counter-economics and creating parallel institutions before trying this whole rebelling against the Romans thing. 😁February 13, 2022 at 6:16 pm #41229
Monty Python presaged this sketch in more ways than one.
In the liner notes of their album The Final Rip-Off, they had Graham Chapman going into a confectionary and hearing this Cockney Grandma saying: “I didn’t fight in The Great War so that shit-heads like you could tell me how to weigh sweeties!” Then Graham took his order and walked out. The notes went on: “That’s just the kind of man he was.” 😆February 13, 2022 at 9:03 pm #41232
“What has the CDC ever done for us?” would make an equally good video.February 21, 2022 at 9:57 pm #41441
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