Sunday School

[jakelafortParticipant]

Robert writes: Do they yearn for the end of democratic society in favor of chaos? I wonder.

It is a good bet that a shocking number of em do yearn for chaos. That is when the raping, looting, murdering and pillaging are easiest to do without penalty. There is also a strong authoritarian bent among many of em so that having president dictator is desirable.

I am reminded of the Mexican American war. There were shit loads of volunteers. They went to Mexico and were utterly lawless. They did lots of murder and rape and theft. And they were in love with the idea of manifest destiny. It was a war of aggression with a BS rationale that appealed to the low lifes.

The current climate has loads of mythology that can be seized upon to execute and manifest the heart’s true desires of the far right.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Jake,

Let’s see…A mania for control, a desire to purge and cleanse society of the “impure” and the “unclean,” and now saying that the latest 15 minutes of electronic huckle-buck matters more than flesh-and-blood-and-mind human lives?  And emulating someone (albeit fictional) who had those traits??

You are checking off some bad boxes there. Best check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Do you even know what the Texas social media law actually says?

It says that any social media platform with over 50 million users is forbidden to moderate or take down postings based on political content.

Governor Greg Abbott signed it into law ostensibly in the name of stopping censorship and upholding the 1st Amendment and The Bill of Rights, yet it does the exact opposite.

What this does is force social media platforms to give space in imprimateur to viewpoints which may violate the conscience of platform owners and platform subscribers.  It is both forced speech and a taking of private property rights, both of which violate The Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment and subsequent case law.

The right to free speech means using your own time and Dime or those of willing providers to express a viewpoint, not forcing others to go along.

Censorship is forcible suppression of a viewpoint with violence, fines, prison, and execution, not private parties or Government refusing to sponsor the viewpoint.

Unless this law is struck down, any nut-burger from Antifa to Q-Anon can use legal force to gain a platform and audience, and even conceivably use the hijacked platform for hacking, phishing, spamming, sending worms and viruses, using bots, and doxxing opposition.

It’ll be interesting to see what the Texas Government does when a pro-choice social media site offers helpful information to users, even if contrary to it’s new anti-abortion law.  They sure are living up to Matthew 6:3:  “…let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth…”

Texas H.B. 20

https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=872&Bill=HB20

Texas social media censorship bill signed into law
Gov. Greg Abbott signed the bill, HB20, on Thursday.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/politics/texas-social-media-censhorship-bill-signed-house-bill-20/269-54c04a75-2bc1-419b-928f-d5d8c39884f4

[jakelafortParticipant]

Enco, i am not sure what you are asserting. But i trust it is more of the same elevation of your beloved principles and to hell with actual consequences. By the way the word is imprimatur not imprimateur. But if there is a censorship of social media bill that is at least a start. Typically legislators are beholden to their faux principles. But more beholden to graft and payoffs-unlike you they will always cash their stimulus checks or any manna from heaven.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Reg,

This news source that is closer to the Roman Catholic Church (and more credible than Al-Jazeera) reveals that the problem is even worse than previously supposed:

330,000 children abused in French Catholic Church over 70 years, landmark report estimates
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/249185/330000-children-abused-in-french-catholic-church-over-70-years-says-landmark-report

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[UnseenParticipant]

What can actually be done about social media? Good article too dense to accurately summarize: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/10/17208322/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-congress-testimony-regulation

[jakelafortParticipant]

I only gave that article a quick perusal but it seems to be mostly about stolen information. That is another aspect of FB hosing us.

Corporations are cesspools. Profit is all that matters. After emancipation some of the biggest corporations in the USA were buying slaves. For decades they did it.

But we should just have unregulated full blast fuck em to the wall capitalism. Right?

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

@theencogitationer – Yes, thanks for the update. I think you published it in last weeks school post by mistake. I had also updated the post to mention the number of victims.

What I am waiting for is not an apology from Catholics. It would, given what we have heard over the last 20-30 years, a meaningless effort. I do not believe them when they attempt to do so. No, I am waiting to see regular Catholics leave their evil Church for good and to take off their shoes and shake the dust them off on the way out its door, as Matthew 10:14 might suggest.

The fact that thousands have not left today en masse is telling. Yeah, telling me that they think they should stay and reform it or or talk about “a few bad apples” when the whole orchard is a cesspit. It is telling me about the paucity of the moral standards of sheeple if they remain members. I will consider them complicit in the these crimes against humanity if they remain active members of it.

I will say this straight to the faces of anyone who tells me they are still a member of this vile Church.

[UnseenParticipant]

@Reg

As an ex-Christian I can tell you that Christianity is all about accepting and forgiving sinners to a fault (literally), so pointing out their sins will get you nowhere with them.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Reg: will consider them complicit in the these crimes against humanity if they remain active members of it.

That is reasonable. I think it is reasonable to take that stance even without those crimes. It is nearly impossible to calculate the harm done. But it is far greater than the sexual abuse of children as despicable and inexcusable as it is.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Reg,

You’re right.  I posted in the wrong date of the Sunday School.  I’m just glad the message is out.

I posted this on another forum and someone told me that more children were sexually abused in schools and in sports coaching than in the Church.

I said that was a Red Herring/Tu Quoque/Whataboutism Fallacy and that abuse is wrong wherever it takes place.  Parents and guardians should get their children the Hell out of any place where they are abused.

Also, nobody can say with certainty which place abuses more because we’re still finding out how deep this rabbit hole goes.

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[UnseenParticipant]

TheEncogitationer wrote:

I posted this on another forum and someone told me that more children were sexually abused in schools and in sports coaching than in the Church.

And those stats are almost certainly eclipsed several times over by kids abused at home by family members, including siblings.

Ask them to produce the actual statistics regarding schools and sports abusing along with how the abuse is defined.

I think a lot of the abuse in sports is more psychological bullying intended to force kids to perform better (which doesn’t excuse it) and isn’t sexual. Some ultra-“woke” people would count almost any touching as sexual abuse, such as hugging a kid who’s had a bad day. Nowadays, teachers of young kids have to live in fear of accusations for simple actions of empathy or sympathy.

[jakelafortParticipant]

A wizzar pissar documentary or book would investigate raper priests anonymously to encourage full disclosure to learn how many went into the priesthood with eyes wide open. Not just an easy way to make a living but a haven for their degenerate urges where opportunity meets a free ride without repercussions. And lots of variety…

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Jake,

Enco, i am not sure what you are asserting. But i trust it is more of the same elevation of your beloved principles and to hell with actual consequences. By the way the word is imprimatur not imprimateur.

The story from France was on my mind, so some of the spelling slipped into conversation.

But if there is a censorship of social media bill that is at least a start.

Aaaah, so yer sayin’ “All of yer social media is belong to me” aye, me lad? 🏴‍☠️

Well, ye must be in the part of the treasure map that says: “Here Be Monsters!”  ☠🐉  Not too keen on monsters from the briny deep!

 

[jakelafortParticipant]

Once again Enco, you don’t give a rat’s cock about consequences. You care about your unbending and unyielding principles. Experience teaches you nothing. History teaches you nothing. Your apotheosis of capitalism and libertarian principles is as mindless and unresponsive to evidence as a theist’s apotheosis of Jesus and fucked up Christian principles. Ideologues are a clear and present danger to civilization. The Encos are coming…the Encos are coming…don’t shoot until you see the zeroes in their stimulus checks.

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