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Sunday School December 1st 2019

This topic contains 12 replies, has 5 voices, and was last updated by  Reg the Fronkey Farmer 2 days, 23 hours ago.

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    I am grateful for not being blessed.

    Islamists in Egypt continue to have a compulsion to abuse the human rights of atheists.

    The post-Christian culture wars. Donald Trump promised he would fight for LGBTQ people but he has done just the opposite. The new law on ectopic pregnancies in Ohio is vulgar and idiotic.

    Can you find any faults with this apologists’ arguments?

    Does religion have a privileged status in the UK?

    This is a survey on what employees of the Catholic Church think about their employers.

    Islamists are waging an online war on feminism.

    Chick-fil-A’s serves up some stale fruits of the holy spirit.

    For most of us Atheism is a default position, not a practice but does it depend on how we define atheism.

    Tomorrow’s Gods: What is the future of religion?

    This weeks’ Woo: Alien territory: the rise of UFO tourism.

    Climate Crisis: Are we passing some key ‘tipping points’?

    Our place in the Universe will change dramatically in the next 50 years. What will Astronomy look like then?

    On the Origin of Species is “only” 160 years old.

    Life recovers rapidly after an Armageddon Event.

    Our body as part machine: Humans 3.0. However will we still be as cruel as ever? What do the robots think about A.I.?

    Is virtue signalling a perversion of morality?

    Is gender a social construct?

    Why the Enlightenment was not the age of reason.

    Top 10 STEM toy gifts for children.

    Long Read: Life with the Children of God cult.

    This week I am reading this book: The Uninhabitable Earth.

    Some photographs taken last week.

    While you are waiting for the kettle to boil…..

    Coffee Break Video:  The logical fallacies of Genesis 3. Top 10 logical fallacies to be aware of. The gift and power of emotional courage from TED.

    #29422

    Have a great week everyone!!

    “Religious ideas have the fate of melodies, which, once set afloat in the world, are taken up by all sorts of instruments, some of them woefully coarse, feeble, or out of tune, until people are in danger of crying out that the melody itself is detestable.”

    – George Eliot

     

    Sorry for the late edition today. I am travelling within the USA.

    #29424

    _Robert_
    Participant

    Can you find any faults with this apologists’ arguments?

    I do not consider this a serious attempt at…well anything. Claims to posses a scientific mind and then all we get is all antidotal wonkiness and claims from thin air. Thinks that like believers; atheists have to work to be atheists. I am sorry but why would an atheist have to try? Like we would wake up a think “today  I am going to try to be an atheist”. Just silliness.

    #29425

    Simon Paynton
    Participant

    Is virtue signalling a perversion of morality?

    I think this article is really good – linking human virtue signalling to the fitness- or poisonousness-signalling done in nature – but a little bit mistaken to compare religious costly displays of faith, to normal Twitter virtue signalling.

    The difference is, “normal” virtue signalling is cost-free.  Nobody is really committing or staking anything on their purported state of virtue.  So, the author, Neil Levy, is mistaken to draw conclusions by comparing the two.  I think whoever said that bogus virtue signalling corrupts public discourse, was right.  Anybody can make out that they are a good person, falsely.  And this is why the practice is derided.

    #29426

    Simon Paynton
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    Just silliness.

    I think he comes across as a bit of a dick – blaming atheism for increased political polarisation, for example, or calling us “deviants” – but I have to say I agree with a lot of his general points, mainly, that atheists often don’t have a good “insider’s” view of religion.

    He also has an overly-pessimistic view of human nature, thinking that we’re all like the Marquis de Sade underneath, when only some of us are (lol), but I have to agree that without good large-scale management, society crumbles to shit.  The question is, can religion provide that good management of society?  Personally I think a mix of religious and civil governance is best.

    #29427

    _Robert_
    Participant

    I agree with a lot of his general points, mainly, that atheists often don’t have a good “insider’s” view of religion.

    Being a Catholic for 1/2 of my life I think I have had an excellent insider’s view of religion. Where is his proof?

    without good large-scale management, society crumbles to shit The question is, can religion provide that good management of society

    You go on the prove my point. For centuries, religion ruled to roost. I think we have an answer.

    His arguments are empty.

    #29429

    Strega
    Moderator

    Thanks, Reg!

    by the way my signed Bill Bryson book arrived yesterday and I’m nose deep. Some extraordinary nuggets.

    Apparently our eyebrows play a large part in signaling our moods, and a big reason the Mona Lisa smile is considered enigmatic is that she literally has no eyebrows. I had never noticed that but now of course it’s obvious!

    #29430

    _Robert_
    Participant

    Apparently our eyebrows play a large part in signaling our moods,

    That’s funny because I was watching these sisters and thinking..wow look at those brows work,

     

    #29431

    Simon Paynton
    Participant

    Where is his proof?

    I have to say, I agree with “Roderic” that Dawkins and Dennett sometimes sound pretty ignorant when it comes to making pronouncements about religion.  As an ex-Catholic, you’re more qualified to speak about it than many.

    #29432

    _Robert_
    Participant

    I have to say, I agree with “Roderic” that Dawkins and Dennett sometimes sound pretty ignorant when it comes to making pronouncements about religion

    Yeah, I agree with ya there, perhaps those two didn’t spend much time kneeling, but folks like Madalyn Murray O’Hair, Hitch, Harris, and Aaron Ra would blow Roderic away with their knowledge.

    There are many studies showing that non believers did their homework (even if they are not “insiders”).

    https://www.pewforum.org/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what-about-religion/away.

     

    #29434

    PopeBeanie
    Moderator

    I think he comes across as a bit of a dick – blaming atheism for increased political polarisation, for example, or calling us “deviants” – […]

    He also has an overly-pessimistic view of human nature, thinking that we’re all like the Marquis de Sade underneath, […]

    I haven’t read the article yet, but I wonder if this guy hasn’t yet met some avid jihadists before complaining about atheist world views?

    #29437

    Simon Paynton
    Participant

    avid jihadists

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the majority of terrorists, of every stripe, have personality disorders of the de Sade type.

    #29438

    @strega Page 78 already 😊

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