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Sunday School September 8th 2024

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    Have a great week everyone!!

    Christians think nothing of condemning nonbelievers to eternal suffering, but will forgive the most atrocious crimes committed by themselves.

    –Ignots Pistachio

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    Strega
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    Thanks, Reg!

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    Simon Paynton
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    Continental vs Analytic Philosophy: Definitions & Differences.

    This is very interesting.  Continental philosophy seems very, well, foreign, until I remember that punk “philosophy” was influenced by the Situationists who were of the French school.  I think the thrust of their argument was that we experience life as a “spectacle” presented to us by commercial culture, and there is a need to break free from this.  I assume they were pretty anarchistic as well.

    The two converge in an area demonstrated by philosopher Peter Singer’s approach to ethical decision-making. Singer uses a mix of classical utilitarianism—which aims to bring about the greatest happiness for the greatest number—and modern analytic methods, such as logical argumentation.

    Peter Singer shows us precisely why we can’t mix the two willy-nilly, without care.  He claims to apply analytical philosophy to human happiness, and the result is inhuman and frightening – logic without  humanity.

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    OK, Reg enough popcorn. This is great.

     

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    _Robert_
    Participant

    Continental vs Analytic Philosophy: Definitions & Differences.

    This is very interesting. Continental philosophy seems very, well, foreign, until I remember that punk “philosophy” was influenced by the Situationists who were of the French school. I think the thrust of their argument was that we experience life as a “spectacle” presented to us by commercial culture, and there is a need to break free from this. I assume they were pretty anarchistic as well.

    The two converge in an area demonstrated by philosopher Peter Singer’s approach to ethical decision-making. Singer uses a mix of classical utilitarianism—which aims to bring about the greatest happiness for the greatest number—and modern analytic methods, such as logical argumentation.

    Peter Singer shows us precisely why we can’t mix the two willy-nilly, without care. He claims to apply analytical philosophy to human happiness, and the result is inhuman and frightening – logic without humanity.

    I doubt today’s analytical philosophers are so rigid as if they walk around thinking like Spock or something.

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    Simon Paynton
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    I doubt today’s analytical philosophers are so rigid as if they walk around thinking like Spock or something.

    It seems like a difference between North and South Europeans – between Protestant, reserved, logical “Nords” and Catholic, florid, demonstrative, warm Latins*.

    * as we Nords would see it – excitable.

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    Unseen
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    While I regard myself as a linguistic philosopher (and am thus more closely allied to the Northern/British analysts), I also find a lot of ethical truth in Sartre’s existentialism.

    Some key concepts.

    Existence precedes essence: The meaning of a life is only established when all is said and done. It is like a painting which isn’t finished until the painter puts down the last brush stroke. You can live your life one way but then ruin or redeem it at the end.

    Bad faith: A denial of the fact that we always have choices and are responsible for the choices we make or don’t make, pretending we are like a leaf swept along in a stream. In the end, we can always commit suicide.

    Dreadful freedom: We are unavoidably condemned to a life of a long series of free choices.

    Absurdity: Nothing has an intrinsic meaning. Meaning is projected upon the world.

    “But Unseen, you are a determinist.” Yes, I am. And I regard that as a fact. However, we have to live as if we are free, and that is where existentialism fits in.

    Consistency is, as they say, the bugaboo of small minds.

     

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    I doubt today’s analytical philosophers are so rigid as if they walk around thinking like Spock or something.

    Maybe they would confuse Spock by asking him what he means exactly by the term “live long” and if he could outline his definition of “prosper” in terms of the cultural differences between them and the Klingons?

    Captain, its the Engines here. Scotty cannot take much more…

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    jakelafort
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    The illegals are eating our cat and dogs. That little diatribe was priceless.

    Funny thing is i saw firsthand that his base believes every single ridiculous lie. I guess that is consistent with his being a cult leader. Nodody is home. It’s the human comedy and the march of folly so kick back with popcorn to get your jollies.

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    In the end, we can always commit suicide.

    Whenever someone in a group setting asks about the purpose of life I always consider suggesting that we should all go outside now and commit suicide. Depending on the maturity of the company of course. When I get told “that is a horrible thing to suggest”, I ask, OK, tell me why we should not?

    #54671

    The illegals are eating our cat and dogs. That little diatribe was priceless.

    Apparently it’s true cos he saw it on TV.

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    I cannot figure out how some voters are still undecided. How is the difference in choice not obvious to them? They are waiting upon the finer details of certain policies or something?

    Gee….I know one is a conspiracy riddled bats in his head liar and the other is an educated person with a calm and logical mind but first I would like to ask both of you “Given the current inflationary pressures, how do you plan to balance the need for tighter monetary policy to control inflation with the potential risks to economic growth and employment? Specifically, what fiscal measures will your government adopt to mitigate the impact of rising consumer prices on lower-income households without exacerbating inflationary pressures further?” so I can make an informed decision on who to vote for.

    #54673

    Unseen
    Participant

    I cannot figure out how some voters are still undecided. How is the difference in choice not obvious to them?

    I saw a poll (CNN? can’t remember) that covered that question. About half of the undecideds answered that they were undecided because, while everybody knows Trump, they didn’t feel familiar enough with Harris to make a decision.

    One hopes that after last night, most of them saw a clear contrast.

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    Simon Paynton
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    I also find a lot of ethical truth in Sartre’s existentialism.

    I like the way the French do things, and probably Freud also contributed to their philosophies.  Not everything is amenable to machine-like analysis of minutiae.  Sometimes you need broad human strokes.

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