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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 5 years, 12 months agoIf ethics means helping in response to need
That isn’t what it means. That’s something you made up. I think, redefining an entire sub-branch of philosophy, before you’ve even read a single book about ethics, is not the best approach. Perhaps reading a book on ethics is the best first step. I’ll recommend a book…you can read an introduction to…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 5 years, 12 months agoI’m not sure that people’s needs fall neatly into categories of physical and non-physical. If ethics means helping in response to need, and helping in response to the consequences of our actions towards others (fairness), then the need to thrive is both physical and psychological.
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 5 years, 12 months agoTruth means “that which is the case,” so relative truth would be “that which for you is the case,” right?
Yes, if “relative” means “subjective”. Anyway, it’s a view point that has some merit, i.e., usefulness, because it’s empathic. If you want to help to change someone’s world, find out what their world is. I can see the poi…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 5 years, 12 months agoTruth means “that which is the case,” so relative truth would be “that which for you is the case,” right?
Yes, if “relative” means “subjective”. Anyway, it’s a view point that has some merit, i.e., usefulness, because it’s empathic. If you want to help to change someone’s world, find out what their world is. I can see the point of thinking like that.
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 5 years, 12 months agoNo…it covers one structuralist who analyses Marxism. That doesn’t make him a post-modern Marxist. ,Heesh Simon. Pay attention.
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 5 years, 12 months agoSimon Paynton wrote:
Off the top of my head, I believe that the post-modern conception of truth or reality is to do with subjective, personal reality or perception. So, in the sense you give, they are not wrong to say that truth is relative or subjective. Actually, I’m not sure what “relative” truth means.So, you’re saying (even if you don’t…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoOff the top of my head, I believe that the post-modern conception of truth or reality is to do with subjective, personal reality or perception.
So, in the sense you give, they are not wrong to say that truth is relative or subjective. Actually, I’m not sure what “relative” truth means.
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoSimon Paynton wrote:
Do they really believe that anything is as true as anything else?Maybe it depends on how you define “truth”. If it means “corresponding to reality” then it can’t be relative or a matter of opinion. But if it means “corresponding to perceptions” then it can mean anything you like.
Some would argue t…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoSimon Paynton wrote:
Do they really believe that anything is as true as anything else?Maybe it depends on how you define “truth”. If it means “corresponding to reality” then it can’t be relative or a matter of opinion. But if it means “corresponding to perceptions” then it can mean anything you like.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoFrom Wikipedia: “critical theory“:
Postmodern critical theory analyzes the fragmentation of cultural identities in order to challenge modernist era constructs such as metanarratives, rationality and universal truths, while politicizing social problems “by situating them in historical and cultural contexts, to implicate themselves in the process of…
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoPeople have a talent for making diverse and seemingly incompatible things fit together. Sartre, whose existentialism is all about the inescapable primacy of the individual somehow also became a Marxist. Marxism subsumes the individual into the collective. The two philosophies could hardly be more incompatible it would seem, yet they both key in on…[Read more]
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoIt’s ironic Simon because you really fit the intellectual profile of someone who would claim to be a post-modern-Marxist…so I guess it all makes sense. I’ll concede the point that someone can CLAIM to be a post-modern-Marxist. Just as a 16 year old white teenager from America can CLAIM to be a Mongolian-astronaut. Well…good for your guys. You…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoYou can be a neo-Marxist.
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoNo Simon. If you “take something” from Marxism from a post-modernist perspective then you are picking and choosing from Marxism. Not BEING A MARXIST. As atheists we can take the few tidbits in the bible that are of use and make something out of it from our atheist perspectives. That doesn’t make us atheist-God-believers. That’s absurd. Just as…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoPost-modern neo-marxist. It makes sense to treat marxism in a post-modernist way, to take what one wants from it.
It’s all very well to say that something “shouldn’t” exist on paper, but it does in real life.
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoNo Simon. Anyone who says they are a post-modern marxist is stupid, self-contradictory and is spouting nonsense. It’s like being a God-loving atheist. You cannot be a post-modernist marxist. Jordon Peterson was just making up stupid shit (or pointing to a small handful of werid outliers) so he could overgeneralize and straw-man a broad spectrum of…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoI’m sure it’s possible to have neo-Marxists who are also post-modernists. If Marxism is distinct and non-overlapping with post-modernism – well neo-Marxism can take what it wants from Marxism, in a post-modern way.
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoRiots all across the United States. Right wing news and opinion sources will depict it as those crazy blacks can’t control their criminal impulses, but Portland is one of the whitest cities in America, yet we had a full-blown riot going on last night. It’s those anarchists who glom on to any protest and then proceed to break windows, set cars and…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoDavis wrote:
I’ve seen several shows that really take digs at Floriday (most notably Family Guy and Brooklyn Nine Nine) and on a few sites I’ve seen people encouraging you to either name a town in Florida and do a news search and see how much white-trash-crime goes on there. I have to guess that there is a lot of hyperbole but the kind of ins… -
Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoI drive from Atlanta to Panama City in Florida. I cover about 310 miles including a straight drive down through Alabama. If I was to drive from Panama City to Orlando I would cover about 360 miles and still only be in northern half of Florida.
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