Davis

  • But if we make a conscious effort to become self aware around any particular issue, that cycle can be broken. So yes. We have free will – to a point.

    I think this is consistent with the saying “knowledge is power”.

  • Ivy replied to the topic Free Will Redux: A Question in the forum Theism 48 minutes ago

    Yes we have free will. With limits. We don’t have choices infinity. We have choices within our own individual realities. Some people have more choices than others. Many choices begin in the subconscious so deep that one could argue we aren’t actually choosing it, it’s choosing us. But if we make a conscious effort to become self aware around any p…[Read more]

  • One thing we can all agree on. Free will as understood by the masses not a gift to humankind by a god who then judges each individual based on our thoughts and actions. This doesn’t mean atheists have to disprove free will just because theists claim that it explains the “question of evil”. I have always thought arguments that go after the nature…[Read more]

  • “Freedom Evolves” is one of those books worth a second read a few years after the first reading. It is probably not a “starter”  book on the topic of Freewill vs Determinism. It was written by an expert after 30 or so years thinking about the topic and I suppose this book could be seen as the evolution of his own thoughts on the subject. I have…[Read more]

  • What would it be like to live in a world where one was able to ignore sufficient antecedents such that those antecedents were sufficient to cause A, and yet one nevertheless did B? And yet, wouldn’t that describe the only kind of world in which free will existed?

    Our ethical and legal systems are predicated on people acting truly freely. Why?…[Read more]

  • Yeah it’s just too early to make conclusions on ‘free will’. It may very well go unanswered to our species. What percentage of the the total breadth of physics and biology do we know and understand? 0.0001%, 10%,  50%, 99.99%. Somewhere between 0 and 100% would be my best guess. We don’t have tons of experience with the physics of extreme…[Read more]

  • And then there are the machines that may become sentient, autonomous and Einstein to the 199th power. I am not sure once they have transformed they are still machines. But they are not going to be biological either. Whatever it is that informs their consciousness or creates their consciousness will be so far from what creates…

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  • Unseen, yes we have a strong sense we know how others feel, even other mammals. BTW not all humans have that strong theory of mind or empathy. Some autistics are mostly lacking in that capability. And now i am reminded of a book i read by Oliver Sacks entitled The Man who Mistook his Keys for his Wife. Lots of interesting case studies of aberrant…[Read more]

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    No worries that was funny 😂 my current philosophy on religion is really complicated. Don’t have time to write a lengthy post but will do tonight after work 😂

  • Unseen replied to the topic Free Will Redux: A Question in the forum Theism 19 hours ago

    What do you think it means for free will, if the entirety of spacetime is created as a single 4-D shape at the Big Bang? I.e., all of spacetime exists as a lump, and we have a path through it that we labour along during our lifetimes, that begins when we are conceived, and ends when our life ends, and our location on that…

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  • Many are worried about the genesis of super intelligence. Will it happen? Will it eliminate us? I am guessing it won’t feel things but i am fairly certain it will understand how we feel.

    But don’t we “understand” based on using our own case as a model? I’m not a cat, but I feel I understand much of her behavior based on what I k…[Read more]

  • What do you think it means for free will, if the entirety of spacetime is created as a single 4-D shape at the Big Bang?  I.e., all of spacetime exists as a lump, and we have a path through it that we labour along during our lifetimes, that begins when we are conceived, and ends when our life ends, and our location on that spacetime path depends…[Read more]

  • Unseen i refer you to the oft-cited allegory of the cave and the short novel by Twain (title forgotten by me) in which the lives of bacteria and the limits of their observation are a metaphor for our limited purview. We are just not capable of saying much. If you read a lot of cosmology it seems like alice in wonderland. What can we posit with…[Read more]

  • ‘Few scholars are comfortable suggesting that people ought to believe an outright lie. Advocating the perpetuation of untruths would breach their integrity and violate a principle that philosophers have long held dear: the Platonic hope that the true and the good go hand in hand. Saul Smilansky, a philosophy professor at the University of Haifa,…[Read more]

  • One of the things I find utterly hilarious (ridiculously hilarious) is that here we all are, apparently cogs in a clock work who think we have freedom, though we actually don’t, and we have absolutely no choice but to type out stuff here debating whether we have a choice or not to debate whether we have a choice or not (and in fact h…

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  • A salad of absurd is reduced to a word.

    We humans have not even gotten close to understanding our own biology. I think without AI the universe is a bridge too far. But it is fun to speculate and ponder.

  • I am only a dilettante in cosmology, a few books and a lot of articles. It seems that some physicists are of the opinion that laws of physics are not universal and immutable.

    If they are “laws,” they must have some sort of determinism in them to even earn the name, mustn’t they? Even quantum physics depends upon mathematical…[Read more]

  • Do you suppose Newtonian physics is “different” then relativistic physics? Could be something similar at play here, an extension of the science we know. Can’t be ruled out so quickly because whenever we get ‘stuck’ for a while I expect a step change.

    The last time we had to drastically modify our understanding of the laws of t…[Read more]

  • Robert you may be correct. Perhaps our way of conceiving newtonian and quantum as separate is artificial. Water and ice. And it is also true that discoveries beg more questions than are answered.

    Davis, I am guilty of failing to explain myself. From my perspective free will is impossible for anything biological. I don’t think i need to…[Read more]

  • @Reg Hahahahahaha

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