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Kristina replied to the topic The torture planet in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 years, 7 months ago

My first inclination is to object to some of the premises because that’s the sort of person I am. However, given the variables in place:

Q1: Would I?
Yes, in this hypothetical scenario. The chief consideration is that the preservation of life doesn’t, on its own, trump reduction in suffering.

Q2: Would resource benefits at the expense of the…[Read more]

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Davis replied to the topic The torture planet in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 years, 7 months ago

Oh dear. It seems my reply also disappeared.

Pleasure is part of the tool box that has emerged in Earthly evolution as an aid to natural selection. For non-sentient beings I don’t think pleasure and pain are particularly balanced they both play different roles in natural selection. But there is no reason why pleasure MUST be a part of evolution.…[Read more]

Simon Paynton replied to the topic The torture planet in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 years, 7 months ago

@davis, you removed my entire reply lol.

Is not “suffering less” equivalent to “pleasure”? Pleasure is a motivator because it indicates moving towards fitness benefits.

Simon Paynton replied to the topic The torture planet in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 years, 7 months ago

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Davis started the topic The torture planet in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 years, 7 months ago

So we can travel the stars. We come across a planet that has a form of life that evolved differently than us. Every single creature suffers endlessly in this world (a ghastly product of a strange evolution). Scientists have studied the hell out of them and there is no conceivable way to re-engineer them. There is zero possibility they will ever…[Read more]