Augie

Once you allow the government to impose speed limits, it is a slippery slope to the government eventually implanting chips in every citizen’s brain. Speed limits are anti-freedom, anti-American and probably break several constitutional amendments. No speed limits means more freedom which means more prosperity which means true liberty and what the…[Read more]

@Reg

The main problem with potheads is that they are overly mellow to the point of you finding yourself doing their work just to get the work done, whereas a cokehead is actually boorish, narcissistic, and potentially dangerous. Tweakers are Cokeheads to a greater degree and are likely to commit crimes or act out of extreme paranoia. Heroin users…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:

TheEncogitationer wrote:
And none of it would be possible without governments outlawing plants and certain chemical configurations to create the black markets for them.

I have often wondered, what if we went full libertarian by legalizing all drugs and making it also legal for employers and landlords to discriminate against drug…

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Down on the fronkey farm I have a few freaky friends called Freelwheelinn’ Franklin Freek and his two brothers Phineas T. Phreak and Fat Freddy Freekowtski, along with their good for nothing cat. They can do no wrong in my book so I keep them on as freaky farmers. I once heard them plotting to hijack a pizza van but it never happened as they had t…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
And none of it would be possible without governments outlawing plants and certain chemical configurations to create the black markets for them.

I have often wondered, what if we went full libertarian by legalizing all drugs and making it also legal for employers and landlords to discriminate against drug users to protect…[Read more]

Reg and Unseen,

I had seen a true crime TV program that pointed out that the Cartels in Mexico are so powerful and prosperous, they have their own mini-submarines to send their shipments to the U.S. Pablo Escobar even wanted to purchase a full-size submarine from the former Soviets after their Empire fell.

In some States of Mexico, the Cartels…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Whenever I hear government experts or “Drug Czars” talking about the “war of drugs” I just laugh. The international drug smugglers probably respond with “Is there really? We hardly noticed”.

So far, whenever there’s been an intervention tactic, there’s been a way around it.

PLUS, drug profits are so high that the lo…[Read more]

Whenever I hear government experts or “Drug Czars” talking about the “war of drugs” I just laugh. The international drug smugglers probably respond with “Is there really? We hardly noticed”.

Robert,

Not so fast. Hindsight through your shade of lenses is not even 20/20, let alone predicting results. Now you may well have a fairly accurate probability in some cases and that is all. Will Russia invade? Will omicron be the last C19 wave? Will the US end up as some sort of dictatorship. Should I sell or hold my Boeing stock?

What are the…

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Reg,

The Aussie article was paywalled. However, this one isn’t:

The Search for Anne Frank’s betrayer.

The search for Anne Frank’s betrayer

So much that you could derive from that story. For one, those without children are not necessarily ogres and witches who hate them. And as Elton John put it in “Philadelphia…[Read more]

Just to edit my last comment on the woman who died after deliberately catching Covid. Yes, it is a bizarre story. But she was still an anti-vaxxer and after 2 years of a pandemic anyone who refuses to get vaccinated and then contracts a severe infection has also done so deliberately. These are the consequences of inaction.

Surely there’s a problem if they are claimed to be mutually exclusive, when in fact, they must be complementary.

No. I entirely disagree that neither consequences nor intentions are the ultimate explaining power in ethics. Different systems deal with them differently and if you claim one is the all-explainer, then you are simply favouring one moral system over another rather than describing the variety of moral systems in philosophy.

Virtue ethics would not…[Read more]

But Simon it is not bizarre. I have sent the story to SAV where reading posts for 10 minutes will make you question if these people are the same species as us. They all seem to have legions of prayer warriors to call upon but their god keeps saying “No” and won’t even refund them the time they wasted beseeching him for help. Just even read this one!

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
This woman died recently from Covid after intentionally contracting the virus.

That’s a truely bizarre story.

@unseen – it’s entirely up for debate, since the term is not well defined and still poorly understood.  There are many different current definitions.

This woman died recently from Covid after intentionally contracting the virus. She is dead from the consequences of her own actions. Moral? Immoral? Or just worth a Darwin Award?

@Simon  You’re using your terms (“moral,” “immoral,” “morality,” etc.) in very uncolloquial ways. Your way is simply not how we understand and use these terms. So, what you are doing, whether or not you are conscious of it, is proposing a change in the language, but without offering a reason for doing so. I think the way we think and talk about…[Read more]

Also, the way we behave towards ourselves can be seen as moral or immoral – as far as it affects others.  For example, a drug addict lets the side down because they create a mess for others to deal with.

It’s in the moral domain if it’s social (in my opinion).  If you spill a drink on someone else’s carpet, but it’s unintentional – you can’t be blamed for an honest mistake.  But your lack of intention is still in the moral domain, because it’s social.

You’re right, intentions are an important part of morality, that we judge people on.  We bl…[Read more]