Parmesh
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoYeah I’d say if you are up for some light reading, indeed pick up any book by Kant (if it isn’t too heavy) and you’ll be asleep in no time. It’s ironic that it is tediously difficult to read and yet the genesis for a family of moral systems of which modern versions I consider the most useful.
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoEthics: A Very Short Introduction – Simon Blackburn – Oxford.
I’ll send you the ebook for free if you like.
As for your categories of morality, they are woefully inadequate. Those are just categories that cover praiseworthy actions, a buzzword for justice and duty (which cover mutually incompatible moral systems). That is woefully inadequate and…[Read more]
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoI know Simon which books you haven’t read. That is: the entire canon of works on ethics by even the most remotely notable philosopher. If you had…then I’d recognize anything you said. But you impose your own nonsensical idiosyncratic pseudo-philosophy onto the rest of them. How can you possible judge it bad if you NEVER READ IT!? How can you…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoA Little History of Philosophy is a good starter book. It is also a useful reference book to dip into every so often. Simon – I think I recall you saying you have it or was that the The Quest for a Moral Compass. I previously mentioned both book in Sunday School posts.
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Humanism 6 years agoIs that small book on ethics called the Groundwork? by E Kant?
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoThe study of philosophy is but the introduction to philosophy.
Hegel.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoThat’s something you made up.
It’s called “doing philosophy”, rather than just studying what other philosophers have done (poorly, in the case of moral philosophy).
How do you know which books I’ve read?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoI’ll recommend a book…you can read an introduction to ethics before you start redefining it. If you give me an email I can even send you a PDF of a short introduction to ethics. It won’t take much effort and will summarize quickly and well the history of and main moral systems from past to now.
OK, I’m all ears. Can you give the name of it, an…[Read more]
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoRelative truth.
Ugh. Gross. Why? That is the starting place of anti-learning. It is for those who are afraid of knowledge.
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoIf ethics means helping in response to need
That isn’t what it means. That’s something you made up. I think, redefining an entire sub-branch of philosophy, before you’ve even read a single book about ethics, is not the best approach. Perhaps reading a book on ethics is the best first step. I’ll recommend a book…you can read an introduction to…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoI’m not sure that people’s needs fall neatly into categories of physical and non-physical. If ethics means helping in response to need, and helping in response to the consequences of our actions towards others (fairness), then the need to thrive is both physical and psychological.
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoTruth means “that which is the case,” so relative truth would be “that which for you is the case,” right?
Yes, if “relative” means “subjective”. Anyway, it’s a view point that has some merit, i.e., usefulness, because it’s empathic. If you want to help to change someone’s world, find out what their world is. I can see the poi…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoTruth means “that which is the case,” so relative truth would be “that which for you is the case,” right?
Yes, if “relative” means “subjective”. Anyway, it’s a view point that has some merit, i.e., usefulness, because it’s empathic. If you want to help to change someone’s world, find out what their world is. I can see the point of thinking like that.
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Davis replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoNo…it covers one structuralist who analyses Marxism. That doesn’t make him a post-modern Marxist. ,Heesh Simon. Pay attention.
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoSimon Paynton wrote:
Off the top of my head, I believe that the post-modern conception of truth or reality is to do with subjective, personal reality or perception. So, in the sense you give, they are not wrong to say that truth is relative or subjective. Actually, I’m not sure what “relative” truth means.So, you’re saying (even if you don’t…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoOff the top of my head, I believe that the post-modern conception of truth or reality is to do with subjective, personal reality or perception.
So, in the sense you give, they are not wrong to say that truth is relative or subjective. Actually, I’m not sure what “relative” truth means.
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Unseen replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoSimon Paynton wrote:
Do they really believe that anything is as true as anything else?Maybe it depends on how you define “truth”. If it means “corresponding to reality” then it can’t be relative or a matter of opinion. But if it means “corresponding to perceptions” then it can mean anything you like.
Some would argue t…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoSimon Paynton wrote:
Do they really believe that anything is as true as anything else?Maybe it depends on how you define “truth”. If it means “corresponding to reality” then it can’t be relative or a matter of opinion. But if it means “corresponding to perceptions” then it can mean anything you like.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Pretty much sums up the frustration of modern academics in the forum
Humanism 6 years agoFrom Wikipedia: “critical theory“:
Postmodern critical theory analyzes the fragmentation of cultural identities in order to challenge modernist era constructs such as metanarratives, rationality and universal truths, while politicizing social problems “by situating them in historical and cultural contexts, to implicate themselves in the process of…
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