Simon Paynton
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School January 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
I must respect your beliefs?? Some chance of me doing that when I don’t even respect my own. I don’t believe things to feel safe. You don’t want your beliefs respected. You want them immunized for criticism.Someone said that people with intellectual humility are more successful, they didn’t specify in what way. …[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School January 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months, 1 week agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Me, in conversation with a evangelical street preacher in Dublin last week.What did they say back? Anything? Very well put.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 1 week ago
Simon Paynton wrote:
For some the cross is a plus but it’s a negative for me.Very good. It reminds me of the way to tell the axes of a graph apart: x is across.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 1 week ago
Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
For most Christians the cross is a symbol of the resurrection, not the trinity.If the trinity is going to represent the cross, then it needs to be a 4, not a 3.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 1 week ago
TheEncogitationer wrote:
King Iyk has made it pretty clear how Christians can use AI to spout pseudo-mathematical apologetics.You can’t knock him for trying. But I think he’s misguided (by AI).
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 1 week ago
Someone said that the reason LLM validates @kingiyk‘s “proof” of God’s existence, is that the internet is full of information and discourse that agrees with it. Whereas, there’s not much on the true existence of Dracula. So, the LLM repeats what it sees.
There’s the whole article in last week’s Sunday School about how AI validates what people w…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School January 4th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months, 1 week agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
The Gettier Problem: True Justified Belief without Knowledge.Again, I think the problem with True Justified Belief is the statement, I am factually justified. To know I am factually justified, I must know that my belief is true, yet I use this justification as proof that the belief is true. I justify the truth o…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 28th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months, 2 weeks ago@regthefronkeyfarmer – but I never said the truth had to be justified – just “true”. Anyway I like your definition of understanding better – understanding the factors that make something happen, and everything has a causative structure.
I understand that the concept of truth is not simple and is hard to define precisely. If something is l…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 28th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months, 2 weeks agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Religious justification is more powerful than anger or hatred and that is how ordinary people become instruments of atrocity.I actually think that extremist religion and politics can justify “righteous” anger and hatred, blotting out all compassion or respect for human rights. That’s because morality has an…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 28th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months, 2 weeks agoUnderstanding – apprehending the truth – is an aspiration or goal. We can’t guarantee to reach an adequate understanding of something.
Understanding is true belief. False beliefs are either redundant or harmful because delusion is always unsatisfactory.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 28th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months, 3 weeks agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Univ. of Oklahoma punishes instructor for failing Christian student who didn’t do the assignment.She wrote a right-wing rant instead. I think that the student, Samantha Fulnecky, will never be able to get a normal job now. But there’s plenty of work spouting off on YouTube, playing the victim and pretending to be…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 3 weeks ago
@regthefronkeyfarmer – what does LLM think of your proof of Dracula?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 3 weeks ago
The best you’ve got are symbolic arguments – “this” symbolises “that” and therefore “the other”. That’s not enough to prove something is real.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months, 3 weeks ago@theencogitationer – the answers to both your points are “cooperation, sharing, and risky foraging niche”. The great apes are savage to each other, and especially the pre-human (pre- Ardipithecus ramidus, 4-6 million years ago) great apes, as we surmise from looking at the relative canine sizes of males and females. A big difference, with big m…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 3 weeks ago
King Iyk wrote:
You cannot reasonably expect me to prioritize your opinion over that of a system more knowledgeable than you and demonstrably superior at processing and validating data. That is precisely the point.Yes, but:
- argument from authority never cuts it.
- AI can’t tell you if the inputs to your argument are real or not: if there…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 7 months, 3 weeks agoTheEncogitationer wrote:
There was NO Garden of Eden, NO Golden Age, NO Noble Savagery.However, Power, oppression, and patriarchy did exist at least on a small scale and money existed when barter got too complicated
But you’re talking from the position of your armchair, off the top of your head, with no evidence.
Uh, ackshuyally, that did…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 3 weeks ago
King Iyk wrote:
The 12-hour clock is not introduced as a mere human preference but as the actual temporal framework in which the crucifixion was recorded by the cultures that carried it out (Roman and Jewish). When Jewish and Roman timekeeping are synchronized at that historical event, the result is not a vague pattern but a specific geometric… -
Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 3 weeks ago
King Iyk wrote:
You could disprove this entire demonstration by conceiving an alternative demonstration of GodWe’re not going to do this, because we’re atheists and don’t believe in God, and none of us believes it’s possible to prove (or disprove) the existence of God.
If we’re arguing against your argument for the proof of God’s existence,…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 4 weeks ago
King Iyk wrote:
here, AI is not inventing; it is verifying a convergence of real-world data that no human forced. the proof is not just consistent, it is grounded. The data speak. The convergence stands. Q.E.D. still holds. If the premises are real, fixed, and independent, and they are, then a necessary structure arising from them is not merely… -
Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 7 months, 4 weeks ago
• historically attested timestamps (3rd, 6th, 9th hour)
• independently defined timekeeping systems (Jewish and Roman)
• mathematically necessary properties of digital roots (3-6-9)
• geometric constraints of a 12-hour clock (3-6-9-12)This proof does not operate on visual noise or perceptual ambiguity. It operates on two immater…
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