Unseen wrote:
@ Anybody here Explain to me how developing unique terms to supplant the familiar ones is inclusive rather than divisive.

It’s not a unique term. The terms Latina and Latino exist as the masculine and feminine forms prior to the creation of Latinx and Latine. Both ‘Latinx’ and ‘Latine’ were patterned off of pre-existing language…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
If honest mistakes with any pronoun ‘triggers’ someone to become angry, my new pronoun for them is the adjective “asshole”.

‘Asshole’ is a proper noun. This is also weirdly thin-skinned of you*.

*edit: the comment in this thread. I mean, if this were the subject of the conversation or a thing that was actually happening to you,…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:

Singling people out strikes me as less inclusive than using one term for all. Or, maybe we should go in the other direction to be even more granularly inclusive.

I am not sure what you mean. ‘Latine’ doesn’t single people out any more than ‘Latino’.

A term for elderly queers…

Pretty sure the number of terms to describe the…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
You pronounce Latinx to rhyme with “sphinx,” right?

I believe it’s pronounced as the letter ‘X’ as you would in x-ray.

We should do what we often do: default to the male term. We use “man” to represent mankind.

That’s what is currently done and one of the reasons people want to do away with defaulting to Latino. One of the other r…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
Piece of Sunshine!

Purveyor of shade with paucity of sensibility.

Thank you ever so much Autumn!

No problem.

jakelafort wrote:
I am not too excited about POC.

Well, what’s important in all this is how it makes you feel. I will spread the word.

Groups can go with whatever handle they like. I propose POD for Muslims. People of death. And the funny thing is i think a lot of Muslims would take it and run with it.

Was the other thread not enough for you? Is…[Read more]

PopeBeanie wrote:
On a related note, boosted now by the House out to Cancel the Executive Branch’s use of a word. I had no clue that use of the term LatinX was yet another propagandanismistic (sp) tactic of Woke Culture.

Pretty confident it wasn’t. There was just a divide between how different Spanish-speaking groups around the world approached c…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
That does not describe my views at all.

I’m talking about your pattern of thinking. It’s really not that fucking complicated of a point. You can not possibly be this obtuse.

autumn wrote:
While I am obviously making fun of you, there is a part of me that wonders how much you have swallowed the Flavor-Aid of American exceptionalism, not in defence of American foreign and military policy, specifically, but in distorted notions of what constitutes ‘self-defence’, the legitimization of occupation and interference, and…

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jakelafort wrote:
Act 5 Scene 3 Autumn: Typical cultist response. God damn colonialist mindvirus. Jake: In high dudgeon did she bludgeon. guffaw Close curtains

Nah. If you’re going to keep up with the ‘death cult’ nonsense, those are the rules of the game we’ll play by. You don’t have arguments. You don’t have a position. You don’t even have…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
Autumn there was a withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 that forced Israelis out of there.

They were supposed to be out in the 90s, and Gaza was pretty much immediately subject to blockades. But you’re still missing the point. Less occupation is still occupation. Again, as outsiders, it’s going to be easier for us to accept that Israel…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
Misleading. My point is that there is no respite from the onslaught. Okay, brief periods without being attacked wholesale, just intermittent rockets and terrorist attack.

There is no respite from the occupation. None. Ever. While we, as outsiders, can accept that Israel is a done deal and that Palestinians will eventually all…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
…can fail to contemplate what it is like to deal with people who are trying to ruin you…

That’s the very point we’re making to you. The difference between Palestine and Israel is that Israel is succeeding.

jakelafort wrote:
No argument from you just a denial. Ok well lets see. Overwhelming majority of Germans in a cult of personality to Hitler. Won over by what exactly?

Hitler came to power with minority support. Support and opposition were based on numerous factors. Anti-semitism was one, but if you’re under the impression that German society was…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
Wow have you mischaracterized my positions. Remember what i wrote? Throw a Jewish baby in a Palestinian home and they grow up to have identical sentiments.

I do remember what you wrote which is why I make the statement. It’s such a simplistic, bullshit narrative that explains away complex reactions to oppression as blind…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
Autumn wrote: Stop. Using. Us. As. A. Shield. For. YOUR. Bigotry. The west does not give a flying fuck about making life better for trans and gay Palestinians. That’s not why Israel gets backing. That’s not why the death tolls in Gaza are so high. Just fucking stop it, especially coming from a fucking American. Who or what is…

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jakelafort wrote:
And yet the west gives it license to continue to oppress. How many women? Gays? Transgenders? Children? other impure? are fucked over by the cult?

Stop. Using. Us. As. A. Shield. For. YOUR. Bigotry. The west does not give a flying fuck about making life better for trans and gay Palestinians. That’s not why Israel gets backing.…[Read more]

Davis wrote:

You know Canadians would be aghast and support the apprehension and elimination of such a hypothetical group.

A couple decades change people very fast. Russians are very sympathetic to the barbaric behaviour of Russian troops. Being a mostly white western people doesn’t make them inherently “civilised”.

Realistically, Canadian minds…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
War is hell. The failure of humans to do anything to change the trajectory of history is reprehensible. The inevitable dehumanization of the enemy is an aspect of war that is unavoidable until wars end which will be the last day of civilization.

The thing is, we here on this side of the pond aren’t in this war. We’re third-party…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
I just saw a video at a “Destroy Israel” rally in London where a group of immigrants started berating a guy for wearing nail-polish. He should be careful what he wishes for.

This conflict really doesn’t have much of anything to do with that. The UK won’t become a Palestinian or Islamic state because the IDF kills fewer kids. Pal…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
They created that situation by becoming Muslim extremists and Jihadists. The West has to make a choice here…

The “West” doesn’t intervene on that basis. Not really. I mean, let’s get fucking real here. Even if we did, the slaughter of civilians isn’t the way to get from A to B. The more Gaza feels isolated, and the more deaths…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
A recent poll on U.S. public opinion about human evolution.

29% of respondents preferred “Humans evolved into their present form without divine intervention,” 24% preferred “Humans evolved into their present form, but God directed the process,” and 37% preferred “Humans did not evolve….”

In giving this response,…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:

Unseen wrote:
@ Robert This attack was a long time coming. It’s been fueled by ongoing abuse of Palestinians, treating them inhumanely as subjects rather than citizens. Maybe Israel should apologize and pay reparations and then it should sue for peace.

How Delusional can a statement get, me wonders, LOL.

While it isn’t likely, i…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
Besides, the devil’s in the details as they say. What NOWADAYS (it’s not longer 1967) would satisfy both parties enough to result in signing on the dotted line?

The 1967 borders have been the goto for decades. I don’t think the issue is signing on the dotted line; it’s what follows after. One of the major issues is the idea that thi…[Read more]

Autumn wrote:
Support waxes and wanes, but there are times where both Palestinians and Israelis showed majority support for a two-party solution…

two-state*
Nearly every dang time I type ‘two party’ when I mean two-state.

Unseen wrote:

_Robert_ wrote:
So, you advocate for the destruction of Israel in favor of the Jihadist’s cause. Awesome

Are the Israelis in favor of the 2-state solution? No. Are the Palestinians pining for a 2-state solution? No.

Support waxes and wanes, but there are times where both Palestinians and Israelis showed majority support for a t…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
You keep talking about “just/justice” as if that is a real thing. Grow up already. The Palestinians need to get in line with the billions, if not trillions of people who didn’t get “justice”, including 6 million murdered Jews.

If the holocaust were still happening, one would hope we would deem it unjust for it to continue.

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Autumn,

But these humans, given what we know, were no more likely than you to lynch anyone on that particular day. Well, no more likely than me. I have my doubts about you.

So you say that someone like me who hates lynch mobs is a lynch mobber??? What Universe do you live in??? Again, fuck you!

I am saying you’re someone…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Autumn,

They were there to protest and demonstrate. It’s literally detailed in the video you linked.

We don’t know fully what the New York mob was up to,

Yes, we do. Protesting. It’s unambiguous.

…but we do know Jewish students were scared enough to want to get away and we do know the library wanted the mob to stay awa…

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TheEncogitationer wrote:
I guess this mob of people were just collectors looking for autographs written from right to left, right Autumn?

They were there to protest and demonstrate. It’s literally detailed in the video you linked.

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Autumn,

You mock, but the blood of students killed in imaginary lynchings is on your hands gun-o-phobe.

Your words stand as is. Fuck you!

They do. And I stand by them. You’re trying to tar and feather a group of people by presenting them as a threat in the form of lynch mob, but that threat of lynching is purely a…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Autumn, The doors of the library had to be locked to keep the mob out…

So? This doesn’t imply any actual threat.  The only wrongdoing appears to be moving the demonstration into campus buildings which probably isn’t allowed.

…and New York Police–men with guns, pepper spray, and batons– had to escort the Jewish stud…

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Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Is it ethical to experiment on octopuses?

What if we go eye for an eye and give the octopuses some human subjects for them to experiment on?

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Autumn, You get barricaded somewhere by hostile people and see if you like it.

This isn’t about whether it’s a fun situation to be in. I am sure it was rather intense and alarming. But no one was out lynching. There was no violence the protest. My understanding is the worst act to happen was that the paper sign an Israel…[Read more]

Davis wrote:
MORE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mock, but the blood of students killed in imaginary lynchings is on your hands gun-o-phobe.

_Robert_ wrote:

Autumn wrote:

_Robert_ wrote:
If the Palestinians were clever, they would drop all arms, eschew all violence and elect a charismatic leader. Israel would have no grounds for their harsh policies and become the biggest pariah-nation on the planet.

Israel has been condemned forty-five times by the UNHRC for its actions against…

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_Robert_ wrote:
If the Palestinians were clever, they would drop all arms, eschew all violence and elect a charismatic leader. Israel would have no grounds for their harsh policies and become the biggest pariah-nation on the planet.

Israel has been condemned forty-five times by the UNHRC for its actions against Palestine. Whatever grounds Israel…[Read more]

Autumn wrote:

_Robert_ wrote:

Israel gains peace and Palestinians will gain true autonomy if the Palestinians take the peaceful, high road and stay with it.

Speaking as someone on the outside looking in, I agree.

For some reason I misread that. I thought you said if Israel takes the peaceful high road. While an end to extremism is desirable, of…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:

Israel gains peace and Palestinians will gain true autonomy if the Palestinians take the peaceful, high road and stay with it. Israel would experience pressure from the entire world to ease up on all the sanctions that keep the Palestinians in a state of paralysis.

Speaking as someone on the outside looking in, I agree. In this…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
When taking a rational view of the situation right now, moral justice doesn’t really win wars or gain territory.

If you’re going to take a rational view then you have to factor in human psychology. Is Israel’s approach one that ends extremism? No. Is the approach of Palestinians one that gains freedom? No. If one side has to g…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Or is the death toll on the hands of Hamas?

Some of it.

If they put down their arms, the killing stops. If Israel puts down its arms the real killing will begin.

This recent wave of violence kicked off when IDF tear gassed Al-Aqsa Mosque. In the bigger scheme, territory expansion and military police are both ongoing forms of…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
A few weeks go by and he drops the fact that his female counselor is attractive and that he told her so and that she responded in a way I felt crossed a line by seeing him socially outside the counseling session. He felt a romance was blooming. I saw someone taking advantage of a highly vulnerable patient.

Agreed. There are lines…[Read more]

I can think of reasons your therapist wouldn’t want you to vent in sessions depending on her modality. For instance, if her focus is cognitive…[Read more]

I don’t suspect that biblical literalism regarding Babel is too common these days, yet it’s still a strange…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Pennsylvania lawmaker cites Genesis 8 as proof that climate change is fake.

I am conflicted. I feel like she taught me something, but I don’t understand how a rib bone was permitted to teach or have any authority over her jurisdiction in the first place. Are there no men in her district?

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
A group of free speech advocates are taking a stand against global censorship with The Westminster Declaration.

It’s not a very good declaration. The declaration itself recognizes disinformation is a real issue, but only in the form of interference between states. Or in the case of some signatories, at the personal…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Death toll is a poor measure considering the fog of war. The intent of each warring faction is what matters.

The fog of war? No when you have a prolonged policy that accepts civilian deaths, those deaths are on your hands. Dressing it up in idealism doesn’t undo the barbarism of it.

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Autumn, Islam…

Isn’t an excuse for the fucked up situation in Gaza.

And nowadays, as 9/11 demonstrated, we are no longer protected by the vastness of two Oceans.

As a singular event, it was tragic. But in the span from 1995-2015* the number of deaths due to terrorist incidents was 3322. That’s around 150-160 per year.…[Read more]