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I’m currently in skimming mode for most long posts, but this paragraph popped out, as I’m feeling again how much I hate ads for products that will never interest me.

jakelafort wrote:
The answer/solution is so simple. It lies in what i keep saying here how humans can be led like dogs can be conditioned. We will as a species believe and behave any…

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Unseen wrote:
@popebeanie So, if it takes slaying every last Palestinian man, woman, and child to make Israelis feel safe, that’s a valid justification?

PopeBeanie wrote:
But I’m open to hearing humanistic solutions that would actually work.

(In those Trolley Switch scenario studies, it seems I’d be one of the few people who’d be willing to wor…[Read more]

Enco,

I have not heard that one yet but i have listened/read a lot of Wilf. Linked some here too i think. She is awesome. I will give it a listen. You have derived good and valuable lessons.

Robert agree with a lot of what you have written but not all.

Wouldn’t say Europeans and Americans were happy to export Jews. Nobody wanted em? If that is what you mean by export, okay. British mandate limited number of Jews who were permitted in any given year. Similarly restrictive immigration policies against Jews in places like USA and Canada…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
@popebeanie So, if it takes slaying every last Palestinian man, woman, and child to make Israelis feel safe, that’s a valid justification? File that along with “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” under the topic “The dystopian ‘logic’ of war.”

The need a change in ideology. The brainwashed goals they strive for ar…[Read more]

@PopeBeanie

So, if it takes slaying every last Palestinian man, woman, and child to make Israelis feel safe, that’s a valid justification?

File that along with “We had to destroy the village in order to save it” under the topic “The dystopian ‘logic’ of war.”

It’s obvious that centuries of persecution by both Christians and Muslims are responsible for the current situation of a militant Israel. Guilt-ridden, post WW2 Europeans and Americans were happy to export Jews to Palestine, land of zero Mideast oil and lowly Arabs. And you better believe Arabs were in-turn forced to evacuate by gunpoint. Places…[Read more]

Fellow Unbelievers,

A fantastic video interview by Michael Shermer with Einat Wilf (Down, boy, down! Heel! It’s just a name! 🐕‍🦺)

How to Achieve Peace in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

It’s one year old, but still timely and timeless in it’s insights on scapegoating, Antisemitism, Anti-Zionism,…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
If Netanyahu isn’t a war criminal, how high has the bar been set?

So here’s the irony/unfairness/cognitive dissonance in my current but potentially changing belief: Sometimes war crimes are necessary to thwart other war crimes.

Sorry, I really can’t land on a conclusion that honors a more humanistic perspective. Wait, except p…[Read more]

Pope,

” I don’t want to just write off Palestinians or Palestine, but if Hamas is the disease, how can the disease be isolated from spreading beyond Palestine? ”

Hamas is an insignificant excrescence of a disease. It is not THE disease. The disease is Palestinianism. The patient is as good as dead. The disease has metastisized to all of the v…[Read more]

If Netanyahu isn’t a war criminal, how high has the bar been set?

jakelafort wrote:
I am not going to waste my time debunking all of the BS that Unseen continues to forward

Followed by 3100 words attempting to debunk the facts.

I am not going to waste my time debunking all of the BS that Unseen continues to forward. The sources are garbage in and garbage out. Yes lefties have corrupted institutions to the point of worthlessness and exhibit blatant racism. Congratulations on being pawns for the Islamists. You are as intelligent as sun baked rocks. Useful idiots. More apt…[Read more]

Several organizations and bodies have issued statements or reports characterizing Israel’s war against Hamas in Gaza as a genocide or a war crime. It is important to note the specific legal terms they use, as there are distinctions in international law.

Declarations of Genocide or Acts of Genocide

International Court of Justice (ICJ): In a case…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
The U.S. should declare “A plague on both your houses” and stay out of it.

I’d be really happy if Iranians can defeat their theocracy, which would (imo) likely defeat major support for hamas, hezbollah, and houthis in the long run. And it would keep nuclear bombs out of the hands of terrorist, apocalyptic servants of their pur…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
Some serious FAFO going on in Trump’s base.

Gawd I hated forcing myself to listen to that very long list of anecdotes copy/pasted from social media as if they’re meaningful, statistically. I generally skim youtube comments to get a feel for the room, where the idiocy in comments can be horribly tribal and angsty, but I won’t ever d…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
@Pope Beanie Don’t be naive. Trump has a pathology. Psychopathology? Sociopathology? or a toxic blend of both? I think that’s for sure.

Pathology or whatever, he’s a wannabe authoritarian, with enough minions to support that dream/fantasy. I said some time ago that his erratic behavior could come in handy one day, and maybe the cea…[Read more]

Jake,

Think about it. The prisoners may be weak, emaciated, sleep deprived. Likely a shit load of guards ready to shoot em on the spot if they try to escape. So unless there was a coordinated action in which the escaping prisoners reconnoitered with some resistance forces then it would be suicide. Weapons alone would only lead to their demise i…

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In any event, with all the “yes men” a dictator surrounds themselves with….no one is going to object even if a mission is doomed to fail.

Enco,

In retrospect that strike on Evin was likely intended to be nothing but symbolic. That prison is a symbol of the power, arbitrary power, and control over the subjects. Precision strike. I know i read a few hundered IRGC were killed by IAF on that day if memory serves. Perhaps it was at that prison or some of the IRGC were killed in that…[Read more]