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  • #29757

    PopeBeanie
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    I never really wanted to control my dreams, but preferred to try to understand or at least learn something from them, believing that they’re graphic representations of my subconscious communicating to my consciousness. Sometimes I’d get insights into feelings or issues that were previously eluding me while awake. I feel like I’m opening my mind to creative solutions, rather than trying to dictate them. But I can imagine how trying to control them could be entertaining.

    It’s interesting how different my dreams were while on the antidepressant Prozac. Some people get so upset with them that they quit Prozac. It was as if my subconscious was actively exposing feelings and situations that in waking life I was especially uncomfortable with, yet it felt like “we” (i.e. subconscious + myself) were working things out, making progress. Or sometimes not. I miss those strange dreams! But I’m fine these days, just wondering what most of my “normal” dreams mean, if anything, but sometimes the meaning is obvious.

    #29748

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    LOL, funny thing is, that was my first silly thought, which embarrassed myself when I read further. But it’s so big! I should have remembered this, and probably shouldn’t admit that I forgot.

    #29746

    PopeBeanie
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    What would Mr. Rogers do?

    I got the old school furball joke, but not the actual words that came before that.

    #29718

    PopeBeanie
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    Somehow I think Steve Bannon still influences.

    I think he feels his purpose in life is to influence “world order”, even if it must first come from world disorder. It reminds me of when I wished like hell that Dick Cheney would just go away or die, but wouldn’t. Bannon will hang around much longer, as he’s implanted himself firmly into the driver’s seat of influential media and knows exactly how to punch people’s buttons, i.e. to troll, with internet amplification. E.g. last year saying “I find Musselini is a very interesting character” [my paraphrase], while practically smirking at The Libtards he knew he could trigger.

    #29716

    PopeBeanie
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    #mediaForcesJoin

    Six months in, here’s how the Florida news outlets’ climate change partnership is going

    [excerpts]

    What started out last summer as a partnership among six Florida news organizations to cover climate change in the state has now tripled in size, with 18 organizations — usually competitors with one another — now working together.

    […]

    Some Georgia news outlets approached the Florida Climate Reporting Network asking if they could join it — the Florida folks recommended instead that they just start their own statewide network. Other efforts have taken place nationally.

    #29704

    PopeBeanie
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    Pope, i interpreted BIG DEAL as follows.

    Point taken. I guess I crossed the line a bit there. It might have raised some hair on me if someone said that to me, as I’m still trying to get over such sensitivities. Think I was mocking arbitrary lines, even if all we humans tend to have them. But look, we can’t constructively apply only pure logic to moral discussions like this one.

    I laud vegan decisions/behavior, and admit to some guilt here.

    @davis is obviously evil too, but don’t expect him to relent.

    #29703

    PopeBeanie
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    Some evangelical backlash to Trump. And some backlash to the backlash.

    (If the following video embed doesn’t work for you, please let me know. Dang, it autoplays! You can turn that off by clicking on the gear for that setting. Does that bug anyone a lot?)

    #29701

    PopeBeanie
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    Yeah I’m not in a hurry to see that, because I’ll bet we’re already on the same page. I tend to switch between Amazon Prime Video and Netflix, and The Family is at the top of my list when I switch.

    The thing is, I think both religious authoritarians and political authoritarians usually choose to sleep in the same bed. It makes sense for atheists to point fingers more at the religious causes. In fact religion likely spawns a majority of those causes. And/but recent history shows how authoritarians nurture the religious pathos to take control over the populous (and motivate their war machines). We can spark dialog on the evils of religion, but we still have to vote evil-intending people out of office.

    When you say “It’s time we realized”, I’m thinking we mostly already know that here, and “it’s time that religionists realize”. We need to sell this to theists, including the fact that our constitution specifically prohibits governmental support of (any specific) religion, else theocratic authoritarianism (like Sharia Law) naturally tends to result.

    #29698

    PopeBeanie
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    It’s hard to see because Trump is so far from being religious in any admirable sense that it takes one’s breath away, but for the religious right, Trump is their useful idiot.

    I don’t see it as a one-way kind of puppeteering. Trump and his most powerful supporters are pathologically manipulative of the populous, ideologically following the examples of other successful authoritarians in the world. Bannon himself has predicted this turn in history, and has wanted us to get ahead of this curve for our own survival. I’m thinking now that this kind of eschatological fervor is what drives other modern, genocide-level wars.

    Such world tragedies may indeed have religious-based roots, but it’s still the pathological “civilians” who hijack the religious platforms.

    #29697

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    I’m pretty sure right now Trump is going: Zheesh…Iran actually fought back?

    Maybe I’m thinking too cynically on this, but I feel certain that Trump (and possibly other “thinkers” he pays attention to) considered this a risk well worth taking. I’ll never forget all the flags flying when Bush took us to Iraq, and during his re-election campaign. It became part of the package with nationalistic, “never forget [911]” slogans that kept us there, and the surreal pressures to act “patriotically” while also thinking we might actually be able to convert Iraq into a successful example of democracy.

    And then came ISIS. Did they predict that, too? I don’t think the vast majority of war supporters did. And now, again, I’m hearing hawks saying “our enemy deserves to be taught a lesson and it’s their fault this is being escalated”.

    #29695

    PopeBeanie
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    Digging further, I see now there is a “clathrate gun” hypothesis (but I prefer the word “runaway” to “gun”).

    From that article, a graphic of supposed CO2 and methane (relatively recent) history on Earth:

    graphic over half a million years of CO2 and methane levels on Earth

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    #29693

    PopeBeanie
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    Speaking of methane clathrates, this morning MS/Bing independently/coincidentally presented a screensaver to me of frozen bubbles of them, the likes of which I’ve never seen before. I didn’t even know what the picture was about until I looked it up [source]:

    probable methane bubbles frozen in layers at Lago Bianca Switzerland

    #29692

    PopeBeanie
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    On par with humans, big deal? Then you are okay with cannibalism. Is it okay to raise humans to be slaughtered?

    That’s a major misrepresentation misunderstanding of what I’m saying. I thought I wrote about this before, but I draw the line way, way before cannibalism, pets, and beings that I (arbitrarily) care about. I only asked you to define what you meant by “on par”. I’m not reading the rest of your long post.

    #29688

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    You write too much at once, man, like a sermon. OK then…

    Okay Pope,

    I am assuming you know that cows and pigs are on a par with cats and dogs. Further assuming you would not eat your cat or dog and probably not any cat or dog. But you eat pigs cuz bacon is tasty.

    Maybe even “on par” with humans, big deal. Some cultures eat dogs, which I could not do. Don’t ask me why, because I admit it’s arbitrary, just as right to lifers think a fertilized human egg is sacred because of their arbitrary line in the sand that’s not even mentioned in scripture, but some padre long ago decided that’s where everyone else should draw the line, and so it became the rule, like other cultures assume God wants more rules than Big Mo wrote (but surely he was thinking about, peanut butter upon him) so it became hadith.

    So you are in the i dont give a shit camp? I will eat you cuz you taste goodly to me me me.

    And cuz you are nutritious. We wouldn’t have evolved to our current selves without meat. Nothing personal, just true.

    Yeah i used to love bacon.

    OK, there ya go, and I used to smoke, but I quit. Happens to the best of us. But now we see the light. New truth has been revealed; new versions of morality can now make me feel better than you, and you better than me.

    Milk? no no no. It is gross. According to vegans it has blood and puss. Idk if that is true. But i remember thinking as a kid that it is unnatural for adults, let alone kids to drink milk. And then the milk of another species! And it looks like maybe just maybe all the messages about the health effects of milk coming from dairy industry were simply propaganda, that in fact cow’s milk does not do a body good.

    Blood and puss are natural, and can either spread disease or immunity, and mother’s milk is life saving for the immunity it conveys, whether it has “puss” or not. Still tastes really good. Even when it comes from cattle, which btw was another huge boost to the survival of humans, back in the day.

    I’ll bet your dividing line to determine which animals deserve more empathy so people shouldn’t eat them is still arbitrary, just like mine. Would you be against insect diets? How about aborted fetuses, and why or why not? These may sound like ridiculous questions, but if you’re insisting that your choices are purely logical, I would ask for more detail on your reasoning. What does “on par” really mean?

    I don’t mean to dodge the question myself, but I’m saying our decisions are largely arbitrary or at least informed by custom, and I personally don’t believe that farm animals live in fear of the day they’re to be slaughtered. They won’t even know what hit them. But I won’t blame you for not eating animals if it’s because of an empathetic sentiment.

    On the other hand, in consideration for all life on this planet, I do see logic in saving the planet’s biospheric resources by eating plants instead of animals. It takes on average (about) ten times more resources like water, land area, and base nutrients to eat animals instead of plants. As far as cow farts are concerned, they’re only recycling carbon that already existed in the biosphere, so I don’t consider it to be a significant issue. It’s the carbon that we suck out of the ground in the form of fossil fuels that actually adds mucho carbon to the biosphere that wasn’t there before. (Plus, the melting permafrost and clathrates will probably become a major issue wrt ramping up runaway warming because methane is really bad in the short run compared to CO2, but that’s another topic. OK, maybe cow farts matter somewhat too, but not like fossil fuels.)

    I do give a shit, but choose different battle lines, especially when it comes to moral judgments. 🙂 (I’d better add here in case anyone is wondering, hell no, I’m not interested in BBQ’d fetuses, human or otherwise, but love chicken eggs.)

    End of Sermon

    #29682

    PopeBeanie
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    Looking at AlterNet.org’s stories and advertisements, they seem highly one-sided to the left, and expect to profit from an unusually idiotic and/or gullible audience’s clicks. Sorry for the harsh judgment here, but I’m especially worried that this is the kind of “news org” that encourages people to vote for Democrats who won’t have a chance in hell to beat President Trollump in 2020.

    Since the Neuropsychologia article is behind a paywall, readers are expected to just accept AlterNet’s interpretation of it. (“Brain damage”, really? It reminds me of righties calling liberals “libtards”.)

    I found an open source link to the article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5500821/

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