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    N95 while working on cleaning out a moldy old boat’s cabin

    In my research I learned that mold can also raise CO2 and other gases (known as TVOCs). The CO2 I don’t worry about and I detest and resist the meter makers using scare tactics to sell CO2 sensing. I think TVOCs still aren’t much to worry about from molds… guess I’m just showing off details I’ve learned. It’s the long term exposures that matter the most. I happen to have high TVOCs in my apartment, and I have to figure out which gas(es) exactly are making my meters peg — I have two meters now but one’s on loan to a neighbor, and possibly as interesting is the CO2 level that can go up triple the normal atmospheric ambience of about 400 ppm. I’m still not worried about the CO2, but it implies (to me) some kind of fermentation that might also cause the TVOC(s). This is only a recent development, maybe I didn’t adequately clean up spilt beverage of some kind. (I’m really clumsy these days.)

    One trick I learned was how to make the TVOC peg right after using isopropyl alcohol disinfectant on my hands. I mean it pegs all the way across the room within a minute, and stays high for 20 minutes! But the PM 2.5 particles never go high until I’m cooking in the kitchen. Anyway, if you ever want to test TVOC on a meter, just pull out the hand sanitizer. Years ago when my brother had to deal with mold at home, I sent him a meter, and he had to buy a pack of cigarettes to light one up to test its particle sensor. (Dang, I should have recommended he try blowing another kind of smoke that he’s more familiar with.)



    It’s not silly or deadly. It doesn’t reduce the number of vaccines being given at any point in time. It’s just an emotional/ empathic response to a prioritization system that may leave people in greater need exposed to greater risk for longer.

    This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the OP, so I don’t have to repeat it. (Much.)

    And do any of these people even understand how vaccination and immunization even works?  Do they even Herd Immunity, Bruh?

    Don’t they see that getting vaccines is an act of rational self-interest that also helps protect fellow human beings who may be too young, too old, too ill, or with expired immunity from getting disease?

    As long as we’re still short on vaccine, Herd Immunity works almost the same whether I take a dose or someone else gets it. I say “almost” because there’s a trade-off wrt which risks one is most interested in reducing. E.g. either reduce the rate of transmission in a typically highly social (or behaviorally careless) demographic, or reduce the chances of the less healthy having to go to hospital or ICU. It’s like a trade-off between fighting fast moving grass fires vs instead making a fire break around the forest that’s downwind. (Forgive me if that’s a weak analogy… I’ve tried to think of a better one to help other complainers understand the complexity and necessary arbitrariness of these kinds of zero-sum tradeoffs.)

    Not interested in responding to your Whataboutist paragraph.

    But about empathy. My “mask tech” is leakproof, HEPA level, including an awesome home-made, full-face respirator that reduces AQI 200 level air down to zero. Back during our 2017 fires when people either left town or stayed indoors for days, in a city normally busy with 1/4 million people within about ten square miles, I walked downtown with my full-face (snorkel-mask with HEPA vacuum cleaner filter mounted on a milk jug with a CPAP hose) respirator, took the parking lot elevator up to the top at the 5th level, and saw totally empty streets, for as far as I could see… well okay, maybe less than a half-mile through the smoke and haze.

    Inside my apartment was a box fan with filters slapped on it and reliably held on just by fan suction, which could clean all the air in my place in less than 20 minutes, and then keep it clean for days running at low speed. It all cost me less than $100, even including the full face respirator kit.

    So what? Well, my vehicle’s in storage and I take public transportation, and believe me, I’ve seen a lot of clueless and/or mask-careless and distancing-careless passengers, and now I NEED those trusty air cleaning devices, especially when the busses are unpredictably populated, even just to get groceries periodically. I’m 67 with risk-laden preconditions, and it wears me out sometimes. Sometimes I just want to punch some of those people. But no, I still have empathy. Maybe they’re just not educated enough. May they love Trump so much they just take his “don’t worry about it” poison.

    I can take care of myself better than 90% of them can, and since there’s not enough empathetic, scientific, medically-informed people with spine to enforce pandemic precautions, not only are businesses killed by their ignorance and carelessness — e.g. the most God-loving conservatives come to mind, but we’re not even talking yet about spending and amount of probably less than 1% of those economic losses on pandemic prevention. We could have stopped this pandemic in only two or three months of know-how, preparation, and vigilance. All I’m hearing right how is whining about what is or isn’t “fair”, and who deserves blame for it, from people who don’t even have a clue of how this got out of hand to begin with.

    Yeah, I err in long term investment in empathy, science, medicine, and public health, at a tiny cost compared to what we’ve suffered with our blindered idealism of purely short term investment in quarterly profits.

    (So, you like MSN, or you picked that story because it proves that Stupid exists?)

    Dang, I forgot to mention… only this morning, my VA clinic called me to set up my first ModeRNA dose on Wednesday! Only about six more weeks of having to worry about taking anti-ICU-bound, life-saving measures. I know, it may still be contagious even if I’m safe from it, so I’ll still wear the simple masks that keep any droplets from coughs, sneezes, or angry shouting going very far.



    Why is it that the BBC and CBC etc. are so loved but that PBS and NPR are virtually ignored by most Americans (or even detested?).

    I don’t know for sure, but think it’s just because of the polarization here, each side so anxious to demonize the other. I don’t watch MSNBC. But I’ll show my colors here and admit to believing that conservative politics has a lot less shame than progressives when it comes to demonizing each other.

    IMO their success in demonization tactics started with talk radio shows. The progressive Air America though they could successfully counter it, but (also just IMO) I don’t think the progressive audience that could appreciate that kind of demonization was as large.

    Religion is more of their kind of holier-than-thou weapon, too. Not that progressives can’t act holier-than-thou, but (IMO) they don’t push it to such personalized levels of shaming and name-calling. (Trump is the prime hero/example of that.)



    Anytime I have attempted to see what is going on with FOX, I feel physically ill within minutes.

    I gave them a look during the siege on the capitol, and was favorably impressed. But that’s it, I’m afraid to see what they’re saying about CPAC.



    In light of the story in the op, leaning worse, I guess.

    I see the world today in terms of constantly increasing virulence of social networking. Institutions and commercial media have been adopting technology to broadcast propaganda and buzz ever since the printing press was invented. It started slowly, with local, then wider read newspapers, to radio, then tv, then more interactive radio (e.g. call-in shows), adding instant, passionate, two-way exchanges, for better and for worse, e.g. Rush Limbaugh style. Live shows on national tv, from Oprah to Maury Povich and other tabloid or sensationalist/reality shows. [Povich has been around for decades. DON’T watch it, ok? 🙁 ]

    Then came the internet, interactive forums, social networking, viral social movements and fads… IMO, the one technology consistently underestimated and unpredictable for decades has been the networking of the human race. Thirty-five years ago or so I likened computers and networking to cars and highways: The more cars/computers there are, the more roads/networking we need, then the more cars/computers there will be to use the highways/networks, and so on. (I was the first person to put a modem number in the yellow pages in Silicon Valley, knowing this would be a trend — at least for technically oriented people — back when the publisher of the yellow pages was asking me “what’s a modem”. I had the right idea but failed because I was so socially retarded, but that’s a different, sad story. And then the real internet started taking off.)

    We evolved to have face-to-face relationships, limited to only dozens or scores of other humans. What seems natural now, really isn’t “natural”. The most powerful political, religious, and commercial institutions define us now, and I’m sorry, but I predict those kinds of pervasive and persuasive powers will increase. Back on topic, the healthiest sources of news and social interaction seem to be non-profit and ngo. With that in mind, this would be a good place to recommend PublicRadioFan, even with its significant percentage out of date entries. It’s been up since 2001, and I’ve found no other comparable, huge source of public radio program lists and internet radio links. I’m trying to think of ways to help this guy, like with more advanced crowdsourcing built into the website.



    Sam Harris can put me out in 5 minutes, LOL

    Haha, me too! One of the few podcasts “exciting” enough to stay awake longer to was when his wife was the guest.



    Pope…do you have tits?

    I was going to joke that all popes have tits because they’re old, but I can’t find any appropriate images to present as evidence. I’m going to take a selfie now and ask others to comment…



    Again I don’t have the facts to hand but it has been shown that these black athletes do share a common trait, known as the “super-fast-twitch” gene. It was also found in the Caribbean athletes and upon further investigation it was shown that these athletes all originated from the same area of western Africa. Colin Lewis of the BBC also did some research back in 2007 on this that I recall watching.

    I knew about white vs dark meat, but not about slow vs fast vs super-fast twitch muscle. So intrigued…

    Apropos to “meat in diet”, from https://www.jessicagavin.com/white-meat-vs-dark-meat/ :

    Dark meat
    Turkeys and chickens spend a lot of time walking, so they have more slow-twitch or type 1 muscle fibers in their legs. These fibers allow for aerobic energy production. Oxygen is used in this energy system to convert carbohydrates and fat into fuel. A protein called myoglobin stores oxygen in the muscle cells and gives the meat its darker color.

    Because the aerobic energy system can use fat for fuel, more fat is stored in the legs and thighs. Dark meat has a bit more saturated fat and calories than white meat because of the higher fat content. Additionally, dark meat contains more iron, zinc, riboflavin, thiamine, and vitamin B-12 than white meat.

    Light meat
    White meat is found in the breast and wings. These muscles, used for flight, use explosive force. Fast-twitch muscle fibers also called type 2 muscle fibers, support short bursts of movement. These muscles need fast energy production. The anaerobic energy system is primarily used here. It can break down carbohydrates very quickly without an abundance of oxygen.

    Therefore, the myoglobin content is lower, leading to a lighter color in these muscles. Light meat is also lower in fat than dark meat. Type 2 fibers make energy from carbohydrates not fat, so there isn’t a need to store a lot of fat. This is why white meat has a dryer texture than dark meat and fewer calories.

    Both dark meat and light meat are healthy options. It really comes down to taste and texture preferences.

    (I left that last paragraph in for @jakelafort‘s edification. \grin)

    Malapropos to meat in diet (but still about muscle types), from IndyStar :

    Muscle biopsies were taken on Jackson’s quadricep by researchers at Ball State, who ultimately concluded that a person’s sprinting ability could be partly related to the number of “super-fast” fibers in a person’s legs.

    “The only other athlete model comparable to (Jackson) comes from the animal kingdom,” said Scott Trappe, the lead author of the study, which was recently published in the Journal of Applied Physiology. “Studies have found that cheetahs have about 70 percent MHC IIx content and can reach speeds up to 70 to 75 miles per hour.”

    Researchers also noted that successful racehorses have an abnormally high amount of the MHC IIx fibers.

    Jackson, 48, a Welsh-born sprinter who represented Great Britain and Wales throughout his career, retired in 2003. He later agreed to go to Ball State’s laboratory for muscle testing.

    What researchers said they found was mind boggling.

    Muscle fibers are categorized as slow-twitch, fast-twitch and super fast-twitch.

    Jackson’s total fast-twitch fibers were 46 percent, his super fast- twitch nearly 25 percent and his slow-twitch just 29 percent.

    A typical person’s muscle fiber makeup is roughly 50 percent slow-twitch and 50 percent fast-twitch with less than 2 percent of the super-fast muscle fibers, the report said.




    […] When I was a kid I made the silly mistake of trying to play fetch with a steakbone that was recently given to him. He bit me so hard it drew a lot of blood. Never, ever, ever take a steakbone (that still has meat or juices left on it) from a dog even if you were the one who gave it to them. I wouldn’t be surprised if meat on a fire is one of the things that drew wolves towards humans and resulted in their domestication.

    Similar to one of the most naive acts I ever performed. Our young dog would shiver and shake at times when given food, and I had no clue why, except to guess that it might be a simple fear of food aggression from sibling dogs. So I sat down one day, trying to train him to be comfortable with me as I kindly feed him pieces of a hot dog or two. He shivered and shook for while, then quite unexpectedly jumped up and attacked me, biting me on my tits and wrist, drawing much blood. (I was so lucky I could grab him at the back of his neck with the uninjured hand and hold him down, but I needed the help of a nearby two-by-four to keep holding him down while I got up to open the glass door and escape inside.)

    Only much later did I learn something from his breeder when I mentioned his shiver and shakes. Although she said she had no idea why that happened, and said that she’d never seen any behavior like that before, she added outrightly that if a dog showed any aggression at all, she would swing the dog up by the leash and slam it down on the ground. This shocked me, I had no clue she would treat her prized dogs like that.

    But I later realized it probably explained, at least to an adequate extent, where my dog’s fear originated. (I didn’t even fully fathom at the time that the shivering and shaking was from fear… I thought it might be some kind of neurological illness.) I further speculate that the urge to bite on or around the tits was on his mind since the days when this large breasted woman raised him. (Yeah, I may be over-thinking that.)

    (OMG, such drama in our world of carnivores.)



    Speaking of Podcast Addict (where Reg’s suggested podcast download resides), I want to say that their android app is probably my most favorite app of all time, and has been for years. They are constantly adding more and more great features. I pay for the subscription version with a few more features, but the free version is great, too.

    The app also works on Chromebooks (because Chromebook OS can also run most Android apps). But unfortunately, there’s no Apple version.

    I only fear that PA will become so popular that it may eventually choose to evolve toward the business model that most other podcast apps and distributors use, focusing on serving podcasts that only they want you to see and subscribe to. So far, the PA app uses a great podcast search feature that ranges beyond just the set of podcasts that they recommend.

    I think that having specific podcasts on the web that one can download (like via Reg’s link, above) is a relatively new feature. I’ll look into their website more now, and update our Podcasts, RSS Resources, and Playlists forum with my recommendation, and the most relevant description.

    (It’s way past time for me to get on the ball there.)


    I took the following quotes from the “are we fascists yet” [grossly paraphrased] thread [links embedded in the “wrote”s]:

    And as i write and think i have to imagine there were a great many that were knew [new diseases] to Europeans.

    True, but those diseases took hold in smaller but numerous steps as cultures ventured into agriculture and animal domestication, became more crowded in larger villages and cities, and later increased their travel and mingling with other cultures doing the same thing. Spread out over hundreds to thousands of years. Side note, tolerance of lactose became a thing when genes that enabled the production of lactase–to digest animal milk, including (as I think you once pointed out) “pus”–evolved to keep working beyond breast-feeding ages, and we still see to this day certain populations (e.g. many asians) who are less lactose tolerant because they didn’t experience cultural evolution identical to that of Europeans.

    Isn’t it true that nowadays most novel diseases that cross over into humans come from bats, monkeys, and other non-domesticated animals?

    True for our novel diseases, at least, but as you mentioned wrt Jeremy Diamond (actually “Jared” Diamond), European hegemony and warring spread the more Euro-endogenous diseases to the Americas (plus elsewhere, I think).  I’d like to know more about whether bats had more zoonotic disease swapping with us much further back in (e.g. some of our) cave days, as we likely shared a few of the same parasites. A large portion of our homo genome is still carrying retrovirus DNA, but I don’t know how completely or incompletely we’ve mapped out many of those “junk DNA” areas, yet.

    All still kinda off topic again, except for our evolving relationships with foody animals.



    By chance is either a vegan or vegetarian? I assume they’re atheists.

    The younger daughter used to be vegan or vegetarian… funny I don’t remember the difference atm. I would be vegan or vegetarian if I felt it suited my health better, but I’ve had more success with Keto. I believe veganism and vegetarianism are good mostly for sustainability reasons, plus for some of its humanitarian pluses. I’ll accept some criticism for my Keto selfishness, and I’ll never criticize the vegetable-only eaters, because I know they’re good for humanity’s future. I think Earth and its flora and fauna would all be better off if we were all vegans and vegetarians from the start.



    Pope, how are your kids engaged in evading the extinction?

    My younger daughter’s just finishing a PhD in sustainable agriculture, with an international flavor to it at Tokyo University. While busy earning degrees at universities, she created ediblesci.com and is building it with relationships to like-minded people and businesses.

    The older daughter’s largely responsible for moving UCLA’s transportation department’s buses from fossil fuel to electric, after graduating there with a degree in Earth and Environmental studies. After that she’s worked in non-profits for some years now, centered on scientific climate change awareness ( grouded.org where she was a founding member and executive director), Los Angeles Cleantech Incubator (LACI) to facilitate industries to become more sustainable-friendly and regenerative-friendly (i.e. as in toward becoming carbon neutral and energy efficient). She’s currently working in the sustainability department at for-profit SoCalGas. (I’m sure she’ll work there for as long as she can make a difference, i.e. for as long as the company keeps wanting to improve on their sustainability mission. I’m assuming the state of California is currently promoting that.)

    Both daughters are highly science oriented, which I think I can take some credit for. 🙂 They also care a lot about people, the world, and neither are the least bit cynical, in spite of all of humanity’s flaws. Well, rarely cynical, anyway. Not a mean or vindictive bone in their bodies, in spite of how a large part of the current establishment would berate them, and I’m thinking of King Trollump and his Cult 45 who’s goal seems to have been to destroy most long term investment in public health, science, and other investment not directly intended to boost the nation’s quarterly business profits or incumbent two-party political power base. (That’s my cynicism for today.)



    Do you want your offspring to experience the apocalypse?

    Both of mine are working to avoid the apocalypse. I still think humanity has a chance to redeem itself. An apocalypse is not a viable option… by definition.



    How much you wanna bet he’s gonna do something really stupid before Wednesday.

    I think he’s burned too many bridges now. I’ve not seen evidence of any American institutions backing him, other than a minority of law enforcement officers acting with Trump Power in their minds. His biggest militarized backers are private groups, like private militias. It wouldn’t shock me if Trump tries to energize them again, but it seems at the moment, anyway, he’d likely take a short term hit on credibility. Many of his backers realize that too, and seem to have influenced him. They all realize that he has to focus more now on a longer term game, outside the White House.

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