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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School February 25th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 2 months agoBut realistically, men aren’t actually being accused of being rapists, just of being dangerous, which I think is really a fair point. It’s clear that men as a species are potentially lethal to women. So, men should just suck it up if women are suspicious of them – it’s rational for women to be that way.
Also, men are the physically stronger (…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School February 25th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 2 months agoTheEncogitationer wrote:
Don’t lump the innocent in with predators in the name of either religion nor ideology!It would be good if the innocent weren’t so sensitive, because they shouldn’t mind being tarred with a brush because of the seriousness of the peril and danger for women coming from a minority of men.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School February 25th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 2 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Saying it out loud in public shows just how fucked religious morality is. I do not take his apology as being sincere.That’s true – it shows how religion can warp normal morality. I find that religion is a moral domain in itself, which has a slightly different agenda (worshipping God? – broadly) than mutual…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School February 25th 2024 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 2 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
After saying women who wear shorts deserve to be raped, pastor admits “I was wrong”.This is the best news I’ve heard all week, in that not many people can admit they’re wrong these days.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Is the military becoming obsolete? in the forum Politics 2 years, 2 months ago
Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
I recently explained to a student of psychology that he will only “get us” when he views human problem from an evolutionary perspective.This is an interesting article proposing a number of fundamental evolved motivations. I think there are more. But they all boil down to the goals of thriving, surviving and repro…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic So, why is the presidential race Trump's to lose? in the forum Politics 2 years, 2 months ago
I think Trump is very clever at manipulating certain demographics’ basic circuitry, inserting himself there, hijacking their minds, and using people as his puppets. There are the Christians who don’t go to Church – presumably they think Trump is a devout Christian. There are the Great Replacement-type people – they think the world is a z…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Nobody saw this coming in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 2 months ago
Unseen wrote:
the classic scottish brogue as epitomized by Sean Connery (more off screen than on)There are many Scottish accents. To me, Sean Connery sounds a bit American and English as well as Scottish. But then, American itself sounds a bit Scottish and Irish, and maybe Old English / West Country English.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Nobody saw this coming in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 2 months ago
Unseen wrote:
The reactor in that last video has a thick accent, as you noted. Can you place it? I’m pretty sure it’s some British regional dialect from the main island or one of the other British Isles (not Ireland, of course).The guy is from Scotland. Beyond that, I don’t know. @davis could tell you.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
Unseen wrote:
Philosophy can help you decide what goals are worthy (“If medicine is in short supply, what is the best, most just, way of distributing it?” “How important is setting up a base on Mars vs. alleviating suffering on Earth?”)But you have to admit, philosophy cannot actually tell us the definitive answers to these things. Evolutio…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
Evolutionary ethics is philosophising about science.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
Unseen wrote:
It’s the difference between “is” and “ought.” Sociology finds out what is the case. Moral philosophy asks what ought to be the case.It’s a neat distinction, yet philosophy can’t tell us what we ought to do. It can tell us what we ought to do if we have certain goals. Science comes up with those goals. Is that science or philosophy?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
Unseen wrote:
Sociology may discover that Spartan society killed deformed male babies without asking if that was really right. Philosophy asks if a society’s moral system is really right.Society gets into the question of what a society’s moral system is. Philosophy looks at that result and asks if it’s justified.
OK, but those are example…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
Unseen wrote:
If that were true, what would the function of philosophy be, then?I don’t know, it’s hard to tell the difference. They both derive abstract patterns from the data (theories or hypotheses). Is it the subject matter? Is it the technique? I would venture that science is about the physical world, and philosophy seeks to explain the…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
Unseen wrote:
Your scientific methods can only pin down morality with a historical asterisk attached to it.I can back up the philosophy with scientific data and theories.
Philosophy and science both aim to construct a description of the world, do they not?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
Unseen wrote:
“Morality” is a philosophical concept at heart.It’s also a scientific one. Is there really a difference? I think the philosophy needs the science to philosophise about.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
I don’t believe the OP was asking a philosophical question. It’s a physical or scientific explanation that is required.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
Unseen wrote:
I’m sorry, but any highbrow discussion of the philosophical foundations of morality collapses in my mind as soon as the word “foraging” crops up.Is that what is required, though? To ask where it comes from can mean a number of things. This is a scientific explanation of the evolutionary forces that gave rise to it (hypoth…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Where does morality come from? – My take. in the forum Atheism 2 years, 3 months ago
This OP is actually a very relevant question. Where does morality come from? The hard-won answer is manifold:
1. risky foraging niche of humans
2. requires cooperation to survive in
3. cooperation requires morality to regulate it.
Those are the external factors that give rise to morality. There is also an internal factor, that you could sa…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic An atheist can't believe in free will in the forum Small Talk 2 years, 3 months ago
PopeBeanie wrote:
Logic tells me it doesn’t exist, but feelings tell me it does. I see no reason to deny my feelings, while I’m happy to tell my logic to sit this one out.What if the factors that compel us to act this way or that, are way below or outside our comprehension? So we feel like we have free will, but are actually pushed around by f…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School 24th December 2023 in the forum
Sunday School 2 years, 4 months agoI think the Prisoner’s Dilemma captures situations where trust is required in order for both sides to walk away with a payoff – to create a positive sum result. In this situation, trust is everything. The incentive is to trust.
I don’t think it captures collaboration per se. In collaboration, trust is also required to reach a positive sum re…[Read more]
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