Simon Paynton

Enco,

Here is AI response to “Do chimps have culture?”

Yes, chimpanzees exhibit culture, defined as behaviors that are socially transmitted rather than genetically inherited or caused solely by ecological factors. Different chimpanzee communities across Africa possess unique traditions—such as specific tool usage, grooming techniques, and c…[Read more]

Jake:

The Dumbnamic Duo on the Democratic Left side is Bernie Sanders and Graham Platner:

Democrats support Graham Platner because there’s a ‘D’ next to his name: Joe Concha
Story by Britta Miller, Washington Examiner • 9h…[Read more]

Jake:

Chimps can be culturally morphed to alternate behaviors. The whole debate is like nature/nurture. If you ascribe all to one or other you have missed the fed ex delivery.Chimps can be culturally morphed to alternate behaviors. The whole debate is like nature/nurture. If you ascribe all to one or other you have missed the fed ex…

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@Enco the tribes I lived with were NZ Māori, Fijian Pacific Islanders and a little with the Aborigines in Australia. Not part of any group or organisation – I went by myself, and bearing in mind the potential risks, I probably ought to be dead several times over, by now.

Stories about all of them, that changed my perceptions of almost…[Read more]

Enco,

Chimps can be culturally morphed to alternate behaviors. The whole debate is like nature/nurture. If you ascribe all to one or other you have missed the fed ex delivery.

The plastisity of human behavior is remarkable. There is no depth of stupidity and credulity too far. No depth of moral bankruptcy too depraved. Comfort in the social…[Read more]

Jake,

All true, and again, chimps are like that without human assistance or encouragement.

Strega:

This fits in with the behaviours of some of the far flung tribal groups I’ve lived with. For them, religion is a comfort, not a cause. They still have aggression, but the dividers between ‘them’ and ‘us’ are more commonly tribal root orientated, or territorially driven rather than ideological

Interesting. Sometime, whenever you’re so…[Read more]

Y’all know that SCOTUS just defanged the Voting Rights Act, right? So incumbent legislators are already celebrating by ramping up gerrymandering.

Short:

Where male dominance is in effect as it is among chimanzees we observe no human rights. Chimanzees regard females in estrus or not as property. Worse than traditional slaves in some regards. Male chimps will do their dangdest to separate a female from the troop and rape it with a few good thrusts and then it is back to the troop and nobody knows…[Read more]

Strega,

We are plastic. It is neither a vehicle nor a root.

@Enco

”We Homo Sapiens just surround our wars with ideology and religion” is quite a profound statement.

This fits in with the behaviours of some of the far flung tribal groups I’ve lived with. For them, religion is a comfort, not a cause. They still have aggression, but the dividers between ‘them’ and ‘us’ are more commonly tribal root orientat…[Read more]

According to my studies, one of the big differences between chimps (and the other great apes) and humans, is that we are “domesticated” (compared with them, our society is not structured around male-male dominance relations).  That means that we are able to cooperate and share.  Chimps can’t share, and therefore there’s no point cooperating.

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Reg, Simon Paynton, and Jake:

Why humans are not clever chimps. (interesting site)

Well, there are lots of things to be said here.

A 13.5 percent difference in DNA versus 1.4 percent difference is still comparatively close and humans, chimps, and apes are still close enough to all be equally on the primate branch of the Darwinian Tree of Life.…[Read more]

The chimp article was spurious if not arboreous.

The herd won’t chime in if they’re incurious.

Where to start. Let me see. Rip it up and set the herd free. The notion that bias seeps into science is true. It does not however follow that Jane Goodall’s conclusions were nonscientific and one of the bases of bias.

“Chimps aren’t that smart; on t…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Why humans are not clever chimps. (interesting site)

Theophilus Painter was not a very rigorous thinker, he kept making mistakes, of assuming things when he didn’t know, sometimes rooted in racial bias it is probably true.

New data from the National Institutes of Health show the human genome varies from the chimp…

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Simon Paynton:

But it has to be facilitated to some extent – someone has to be there to interpret and read out loud what someone is pointing to.

Ah, but I’m not facilitating your communication by reading your post.

And you’re not facilitating my communication by reading my post.

We’re both conveying, exchanging, and absorbing each o…[Read more]

But it has to be facilitated to some extent – someone has to be there to interpret and read out loud what someone is pointing to.

If they are doing it themselves it is not FC.

If somebody’s pushing somebody’s elbow as they type at a keyboard, or point to letters, then obviously that’s a pointless exercise.  But if they’re doing it themselves, it opens up communication to an otherwise non-verbal person.

Facilitated Communication sits at the intersection of hope, identity, and perceived injustice, which makes it unusually resistant to evidence. When you watch FC in action, it can be convincing. The person appears to be communicating fluently, even sometimes at a level far beyond what anyone expected. The problem is that this impression is exactly…[Read more]