Sunni Islam and Shia Islam Together Again…And Against Us!

[Davis]

Indeed, saw a documentary about the struggles of Ethiopian Jews as well as other more “exotic”Jews such as those from Persia, India and Central Asia (Uzbekistan etc). They have also found themselves struggling on the social ladder which seems to be somewhat akin to how close they are culturally to Western Europe. Of course the story is far more complex than that, and over all, Jewish people in Israel, have for the most part, integrated extremely diverse cultures and level of religious zealotry very very well all things considered. No doubt mandatory conscription, a common goal and common enemy help a lot.

As I have said before, I admire what has been accomplished in Israel. I am however utterly repulsed by many of the horrid policies that have either enabled some of that progress and shaky stability as well as the many victims of that experiment.

I think it should also be highlighted, one of your earlier comments. An equal level of suffering of Palestinians does come from non-Israeli influence. For example the indifference or outright hostility towards the millions of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and Jordan. As well as the pawn pieces they are treated as by malevolent forces from Iran, Saudi Arabia and even “good meaning” parties in the West. There are even some fairly perverse industries set up around “tragedy porn” involving Palestinians.

Regardless of how the ended up there, and the many terrible political decisions made, evil factions which have festered within Palestine, the average Palestinian is utterly doomed to a horrid life, one that could markedly improve by a mentality change by all actors with their sites on the place, be them Muslim neighbours, western Influence or god awful Israeli policies.

[Reg the Fronkey Farmer]

I have some friends who were due to fly to Israel for a cousin’s wedding on the Monday after the Hamas attack. It was cancelled, the cousin and his brother were called up and are now on the front line somewhere. The bride was also called up but then “stood down” as her brothers had been called up.

[jakelafort]

I wonder if the combat will be above ground & under? House to house is bad enough. But going into tunnels that they’re waiting on ya? Can the IDF wait at the egress points? They gotta run out of food and water eventually. Or is there a gas that can be used to knock em out without harming hostages? If they go will they use flamethrowers like US v Japanese in WW11?

[Unseen]

Biden starting to come around to a realistic view of Israel? It’s all words unless he’s willing to threaten to cut off aid.

Biden Demands An End to Israeli Settler Violence Against Palestinians In West Bank

 

[_Robert_]

jakelafort wrote:

I wonder if the combat will be above ground & under? House to house is bad enough. But going into tunnels that they’re waiting on ya? Can the IDF wait at the egress points? They gotta run out of food and water eventually. Or is there a gas that can be used to knock em out without harming hostages? If they go will they use flamethrowers like US v Japanese in WW11?

I think they will try to segregate and divide the shallower tunnels with bunker buster bombs and maybe bring in drilling equipment to get explosives into the deeper ones. Nasty business. I bet they have gas masks down there, but I don’t know how good they are. Thing about tunnels is that once they are trapped, they are as good as dead.

[Unseen]

Israel seems preparing to hit a the main hospital in Gaza using the excuse that (they say) Hamas uses the hospital and its occupants as a shield to prevent any sort of effective attack.

Did you notice that the video presents allegations and computer graphics, not actual verifiable evidence?

Israel has warned the hospital to evacuate, but they can’t evacuate people on ventilators, prematurely born babies in incubators, and other critically ill people. So, WTF???

This is aggravated by the fact that Israel has cut off supplies of fuel and is not letting in enough water to feed everyone, much less the very vulnerable patients in the hospital and their essential caregivers. It is also the main source of medical attention for any of the wounded.

So, it’s fun and games in the Middle East, as usual since the founding of the artificial country.

BTW, did you ever think about the fact that probably there would have been no 9/11  had Israel never been established? What a clusterfuck.

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[_Robert_]

It does fit with Hamas’s modus operandum to use a hospital as a military installation. Dead babies make for great PR to stir-up the warriors of Islam.

It is pretty hard to find any real estate anywhere that has not been stolen from the original occupiers. Israel is “there” now thanks to scriptures and they are not going anywhere. Both Christians and Jews wanted Jerusalem to fulfil their fucked-up prophesies.

Both Palestinian “governments” are terrorist organizations that won’t accept any sort of two or three state solution for decades, so their people are just human shields at this point. Sorry my liberal friends, being more “brown” and/or more poor, doesn’t make you more righteous. Liberalism with all its good intentions has been hijacked.

Israel is about to get all sorts of bad press for defending themselves when they start eradicating these theocratic terrorists. Hezbollah is much stronger than Hamas and will start with the missiles at some point, drawing US airstrikes and this fictional asshole called Yahweh will have no choice to look down and smile just a little. Just like that other big autocratic asshole, Putin.

[Unseen]

@ Robert

If scriptures justify land grabs I’m sure the Native Americans can refer to their oral traditions as some sort of parallel. We took over their land and can we say the world is a better place for it? Honestly?

@ Jake

The notion that Jews monolithically support the Israeli treatment of Palestinians is belied by the “Not In Our Name” movement which sides with Palestinians in the conflict.

 

[_Robert_]

If scriptures justify land grabs I’m sure the Native Americans can refer to their oral traditions as some sort of parallel. We took over their land and can we say the world is a better place for it? Honestly?

Of course, scriptures don’t justify land grabs. Nothing does; however, in this case it is over and done.

[Unseen]

_Robert_ wrote:

If scriptures justify land grabs I’m sure the Native Americans can refer to their oral traditions as some sort of parallel. We took over their land and can we say the world is a better place for it? Honestly?

Of course, scriptures don’t justify land grabs. Nothing does; however, in this case it is over and done.

There’s no statute of limitations on many crimes. Apparently, taking land and imprisoning the former occupants isn’t one of them in your mind. To me, it’s crying to be undone or at least compensation in some significant way.

[jakelafort]

RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION!

Zionist plot!

If only the Germans had gotten the job done. And they would have if it had not been for the powerful Jews controlling everything!

Oh, hey Unseen. You got this.

[Unseen]

@ Jake

This is part of the problem: If you criticize Israel’s actions or ethics or if you cast doubt on the wisdom of it’s history, someone will call you a Jew hater. Well, then as the last video I posted shows, there are a lot of antisemitic Jews as well…and many of them live in Israel.

BTW, are you aware of Godwin’s Law?

It’s said we are living in the sixth mass extinction event right now. If we end all of mankind in a nuclear exchange also ending perihaps much or all life on the surface, the founding of Isreal will likely be a major contributory factor. We may not have to wait for destroying the environment, a catastrophic plague, or a massive asteroid impact if international politics can’t be brought under control.

 

[jakelafort]

Dressed like that…wearing tight pants…she was asking for it.

[Unseen]

jakelafort wrote:

Dressed like that…wearing tight pants…she was asking for it.

Did you post this in the wrong topic or…is it something you’re smoking?

[Unseen]

Israel is acting out of revenge and spite, not rationally and with humanity. They don’t care at this point about collateral damage, do they?

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