Ivy

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  • #28349

    Ivy
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    LMFAO!

    #28240

    Ivy
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    it’s a truism

    Is it? How does that compare to the statement, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?”

    I can think of a long list of things people believe without evidence every day….

    First you have to define what evidence would look like. We do this in experimental design by defining our variable and determining what’s being measured and why…

    #28109

    Ivy
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    @davis

    More anti-knowledge post-modernism. You have a real hangup on the difference between evidence and rationally based claims vs. intuitively based ones. As though there is no difference

    Actually those words are not mine. I was listening to a minimalist podcast and they happened to be interviewing this guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_McManus

    I had never heard of him before prior to the other day….I thought his words were….interesting.

    #28088

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    @unseen

    Certainty, clearly, is subject to qualification without devolving into nonsense. Not so with faith. It’s the nature of faith that it is 100%, a total commitment. Certainty can recognize facts and qualifications, faith cannot because “kind of faithful” isn’t real faith.

    I 100% disagree with your statement there…

    Without doubt there is no faith, there is just belief….and any person that doesn’t doubt doesn’t think. Faith and doubt are two sides of the same coin.

    #28064

    Ivy
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    It is amazing to me how people of all different backgrounds and origins can hold so many radically different beliefs…And all think  that they are right.

    #28059

    Ivy
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    You can reword it however you want. You know, and atheist I know once told me years ago that, “God is very real to the people who believe in him.” I think that’s really true. Because even when I tried to become an atheist I never really was one. I cannot fathom not believing in God. Probably to the same degree that you cannot fathom believing in him.

    #28052

    Ivy
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    You think we are all fucked up hateful liars? Really?

    I think all people are regardless of whether they’re atheists or otherwise. The whole world is fucked up. And everybody lies.

    #28049

    Ivy
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    I don’t have to go to Bible at all but wouldn’t it be seen as proselytizing? That’s what I meant

    #28048

    Ivy
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    I’m sorry for being offensive but yes I’m very angry. I feel like I’m trying to explain myself but it’s just not translating. I’m sure it’s something I’m not saying right but it still makes me mad.

    #28045

    Ivy
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    I think we can call god whatever we want. It doesn’t matter what you name him. But I do believe God speaks to us. I can think of examples in my own life that are very specific and there’s no way it was anything but God.

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by  Ivy.
    #28043

    Ivy
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    @strega

    I’m curious, Ivy, as to why you joined AZ. It appears to me that you are trying to fight an uphill battle, coming to an atheist site to wave your beliefs around.

    I’ve been a member of this site since 2012. But it’s a dog eat dog world isn’t it? Since I can’t raise up any questions at all about anything without receiving an attitude, I’ve become a fucking bitch and that’s the way it has to be. Nobody takes you seriously anyway.

    #28038

    Ivy
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    Define your god and I’ll tell you what evidence would work.

    Don’t act like you would even begin to take me seriously. You wouldn’t. All you would do is go around in circles back to nothing. You know it and I know it. My God doesn’t exist to you. You don’t believe in God. That’s YOU. Nobody actually engages honestly with a theist on this forum.

    #28037

    Ivy
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    Honestly, I don’t give a flying fuck what you all believe or don’t believe. I just like seeing you all get riled up and defensive. It really shows your true colors. It shows how much you really don’t want to believe in God. Don’t go saying you didn’t choose it! That would be a lie. Do atheists lie? Yeah that’s what I thought.

    Sealioning? Nah. I don’t honestly care either way what you all think of me or don’t. It’s a small piece of vengeance I can take in this fucked up world. You all try to pretend you’re good people. Don’t kid yourself. You’re just as fucked up as “the theists” you pretend not to hate.

    #28035

    Ivy
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    I never made a decision not in believe in the god you claim exists.

    Yes you did. We all make decisions one way or another to believe or not. It is a choice. It’s not forced upon us. That’s the whole point.

    #28034

    Ivy
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    So this time rather than “just sayin” please take the time to explain what you think the merits of Pascal’s Wager are and why we should not consider it a poor intellectual argument. This time you do the work and we will debate your answer.

    Personally I think the whole “Pascal’s wager vs. the Atheist Wager is pretty stupid. I think both of them are wrong and come from a very egocentric and entitled stance.

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