Nadezhda

Simon Paynton wrote:
@davis – the moral philosophy I’m putting together. It turns out to be exceedingly powerful. It’s kind of on a level of building a house – takes a while, but not forever. http://yellowgrain.co.uk/ That’s it, the writing up is still in progress, but the basics are all in my head. This is a religion in the form of a logical s…

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No it is actually more like this Simon:

[You]: X is the best thing ever and is perfect

[Skeptic] Yeah but these are verifiable things that show that X is flawed and has many problems. For  example this book, the foundation of knowledge of X says this and that, things that aren’t good.

[You]: Nah. X is the best thing ever and it is p…[Read more]

@Simon

I’m happy for you that you’ve found some kind of zen with the universe and you’ve worked out a “how to live” and “sense of morality” that works for you. That being said, I didn’t really understand anything in this post of yours. What is completely logical? What writes itself? What will people be fluent in? What is a deepful joy?

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_Robert_ wrote:
That’s because we finally know everything?

Hahaha. Yes. Indeed. We have so much to teach the world and so little time before we are all dust. Sigh.

He was insane:

Indeed Robert. And we need not get into Jesus’s approval of God murdering every human and animal on Earth minus a few people and two of each animal. Surely that was the utter pinnacle of morality. As Robert mentioned…he threatens hell for those who don’t believe in him. He condemned entire towns to hell because they didn’t accept…[Read more]

Hey Reg. What happened to 10 things we didn’t know last week? I miss those a lot.

Simon Paynton wrote:
Jesus’ moral philosophy was valid, and since then, nobody has done better.

So I suppose you read Bhuddist scriptures (not just a summary?) and you read Aristotles ethics? This is an incredible claim you are making and yet it is impossible to take it seriously considering your complete refusal to read about major moral s…[Read more]

their ideas exist, somebody had to originate those ideas, that somebody must have been a real person to have done that.

Yes.  Jesus did not invent the phrases you read in the bible. It was all written well before he lived (if he ever lived). Read Aristotle who came well before Jesus. Read Hindu and Bhuddist scripture. No sound moral argument…[Read more]

1) the things that he is reported to have done, fit in with cutting-edge moral philosophy as we know it;

There is no such thing as cutting edge moral philosophy. There are massively different world views proposed and explained by very different kinds of faculty and philosophers. Perhaps you are referring to a pacifist world view where identity…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
In this case, Jesus said X, we can also arrive at X through independent, well verified philosophical means.

No. No on many counts. The character as described said many things that sound nice. He said a few things that are morally horrible. It is nothing new in the history of peace and love ethics (what he supposedly said had…[Read more]

they can be independently verified as genuinely awesome.

What does that mean? The only sources on Jesus are some gospels written well after he died. All other sources come later. The consensus is that someone named Jesus existed and was cruxified. It is currently impossible to prove Jesus as described in the bible existed, let alone his…[Read more]