Strega
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 3 months, 4 weeks ago
“Must logically precede creation” is an assertion, not a consequence. Nothing in what you have presented logically entails pre-creation Trinitarian existence. To do that you would need to offer explicit premises with valid inference rules and then a conclusion that cannot be otherwise. All you are doing is offering a post-hoc pattern extracted fro…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 3 months, 4 weeks ago
You are absolutely right that internal logical consistency ≠ empirical validity and that is exactly why this proof is stronger than any purely deductive or modal argument. The proof is not a closed logical system built on theological premises. It is empirically anchored in three independently verifiable, real-world facts. These are not a…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 3 months, 4 weeks ago
Happy Christmas King Iyk:
As I reflect on the true meaning of Christmas and look at the little baby Jesus in the crib, I ask myself a very seasonal question “Did the Trinity exist while Mary was pregnant with Jesus? Let’s play a Christmassy game. Logic.
If you believe in mainstream Trinitarian doctrine, you must answer that yes, the Trinity exi…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 3 months, 4 weeks ago
@King Iyk: Did the Trinity exist before the Creation of the Universe?
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 3 months, 4 weeks agojakelafort wrote:
Simon, from the woke left and it’s anti-isreal Jew Hating campaign which has infiltrated universities with nonacademic studies in Jew hating propaganda, leaked into mainstream media and awakened the far right’s latent Jew hate here are today’s headlines in the Jerusalem Post.Oh, this real first-rate smooth brain chatter, LOL. …[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 3 months, 4 weeks ago
King Iyk wrote:
here, AI is not inventing; it is verifying a convergence of real-world data that no human forced. the proof is not just consistent, it is grounded. The data speak. The convergence stands. Q.E.D. still holds. If the premises are real, fixed, and independent, and they are, then a necessary structure arising from them is not merely… -
Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 3 months, 4 weeks ago
• historically attested timestamps (3rd, 6th, 9th hour)
• independently defined timekeeping systems (Jewish and Roman)
• mathematically necessary properties of digital roots (3-6-9)
• geometric constraints of a 12-hour clock (3-6-9-12)This proof does not operate on visual noise or perceptual ambiguity. It operates on two immater…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 3 months, 4 weeks agoStrega wrote:
it’s not just people dying, like snuffing out a candle. It’s about leprosy, polio, and a million savage unrepairable wounds. It’s about the misery of pain, and the proximity to animal violence that pervaded in your ‘sounds great’ description.I take your point, that living conditions and the lack of advanced medicine would have made…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 3 months, 4 weeks agoI wonder if Schrödinger was ever nervous on Christmas morning as he opened his boxes of presents? Did he call his cat “socks”??
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 3 months, 4 weeks agoAs always, you are very welcome Strega 🙂
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 3 months, 4 weeks agoI smoked some good weed last night. I imagined an artist digging into the earth for inspiration with bare hands and scraping the hand of a philosopher digging from the opposite direction…. so I wrote a poem. I will dedicate it to Strega 🙂
Digging
You dig from your side
with charcoal hands,
following a feeling
you can’t quite name.I dig fro…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 3 months, 4 weeks agoHave a great week and Happy Solstice from close to where I live, this morning. More here.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 3 months, 4 weeks ago
It may well be that @kingiyk‘s “proof” is logically consistent, i.e., logically valid. When AI checks it, it validates it on the grounds of internal logical consistency.
But that’s not the same as being empirically valid – valid in the real world. To be valid in the real world, all the premises have to be real (I don’t know – I assume) and t…[Read more]
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PopeBeanie replied to the topic Extra-Geeky Chat/Conversations in the forum
Artificial Intelligence 4 months agoI keep hearing about where AI is weak, and that’s ok. It’s often true. But many in society typically prefer to just leave it at that, ignoring that AI is at least good at: Summarizing the words and conclusions of everything published on the internet. For better, and for worse, of course, but I love delving into topics that would take ten or a…[Read more]
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PopeBeanie replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 4 months ago
King Iyk wrote:
@Reg, The bottom line of our exchange is this: I was able to get the foremost intellectual advancement of the human race (AI) to attest to the validity of my demonstration—you were not. Simple.(Reg, it’s hard for me to resist responding here.)
Seems to me, you’re openly not interested in considering intellectual or p…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 4 months ago
It is patently clear you are incapable of reasoned debate. I am only replying for the sake of others that might be reading this from the sidelines.
“AI attested to it” is not a meaningful claim. LLMs are not intelligent systems. Just ask one if it is. They echo coherence, not correctness. If AI affirmations counted as validation, then nume…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 4 months ago
You said in the parting gift of your last paragraph that “The Bible’s God is Triune, demonstrated not assumed”.
But demonstrated how? All you have done is to show that patterns can be extracted from a text and that symbolic triad can be (re)arranged, Nothing is demonstrated.
“When treated as data rather than prose”….once again, this is a catego…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 4 months ago
There is so much wrong here that I am not sure where to start. I will pick some points out. The whole piece reminds me of what Dan Dennett called a ‘deepity’. Lots of big words too so I will try not to be too much of a sesquipedalian.
‘But conceptual analysis still carries a burden: a concept that does not exist in its source domain cannot gen…[Read more]
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_Robert_ replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 4 months ago
jakelafort wrote:
King reminds me of the Progressives/Woke in their pathetic intellectualizing of their racism against Jews and in how they try to discredit state of Israel. Just give me a theist who is honest. I have faith which means i got nothing dude. Absolutely nothing. Give me Nazis. Sure there is a mythology but at base nobody gonna take… -
Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 4 months ago
If I was on that flight I would start singing “Allahu Akbar” and if asked to stop,would then sue the airline for religious discrimination.
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