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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 11 months, 4 weeks agoTheEncogitationer wrote:
Again, this is the kind of stuff that encourages hatred of philosophy as empty egg-headedness.I think it’s ordinary straightforward philosophy. It would interest some people.
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 11 months, 4 weeks ago_Robert_ wrote:
The “Free Palestine” camp should be allowed to express their misguided opinions like everyone else AND be punished for rule breaking like everyone else. That should be the focus of the effort, but it’s not. The focus is on crushing education and replacing learned people with easily controllable idiots wearing red dunce caps. Defun… -
Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 11 months, 4 weeks agoTheEncogitationer wrote:
You could have teamed with Eli Whitney and made a Strawman Assembly Line with that line of thought.Slaves, of course, are morally blameless for their condition
If you accept determinism, as I do, then everyone is blameless for their condition.
That said, slaves have rebelled and freed themselves. There are many examples…[Read more]
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 11 months, 4 weeks ago@Enco, sure companies pay taxes, but no company was going to orchestrate a mission to the moon. The return on investment as far as business development enabled by the Apollo program was 700% or 7:1 to the taxpayers.
The point is that universities and businesses work together to elevate our nation and that no business can afford to undertake risky…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 11 months, 4 weeks agoPerhaps atheism asserts nothing but an atheist can assert that God doesn’t exist and here I am doing it.
God does not exist because he/she/it is impossible like a round square, counting to infinity, or unringing a bell. If that is true, then God’s nonexistence is true to a mathematical-level certainty.
Consider an…[Read more]
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 11 months, 4 weeks agoTriggering empathy is a Spielberg specialty. Most of us are running the same basic software (if you are not a sociopath). The thing is, I am never a fan of having people take pity on others if there is nothing they can or will do to really help. In fact, it results in the most helpless of feelings having to look up at “empath”, shaking their head…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agojakelafort wrote:
Mirror neurons and other neural junk whose name(s) escapes me and neural pathways are activated when something observed causes alarm or joy/ecstasy. If one is high in empathy watch a movie and start crying or repulsing the automatic response to some tear jerker shit. Zeus ex machina or some shit.That would be emotional…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoTheEncogitationer wrote:
If you want to numb somebody’s sense of empathy, as well as any love of philosophical thought, just have them read that essay, as well as the others in Nagel’s What Does It All Mean?It may or may not be a godawful book, but I think it’s an interesting question to ask what it’s like for some totally different organism to…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoStrega wrote:
Empathy is informed sympathyI think that’s a good description, if you mean informed emotional resonance. Empathy has three components: cognitive perspective taking, emotional resonance, and empathic concern or compassion.
A psychopath can have empathy in the sense of cognitive perspective taking; but they can’t do emotional…[Read more]
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months ago_Robert_ wrote:
If empathy is what it takes for us to do the right things, that’s great. However, the dichotomous situation of living standards always throws me for a loop.In a recent Facebook post answering a person who likes to remind leftists like me that the Democrats were very keen on the KKK and it was a Republican who f…
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months ago_Robert_ wrote:
If empathy is what it takes for us to do the right things, that’s great. However, the dichotomous situation of living standards always throws me for a loop.In a recent Facebook post answering a person who likes to remind leftists like me that the Democrats were very keen on the KKK and it was a Republican who freed the slaves, I…[Read more]
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months ago13,100 children under the age of 5 die every day. 9 kids a minute. Many starve or just don’t get medicine they need.
We love our pets. More than half a million cats are snuffed out in shelters each year.
Mother nature is absolutely ruthless. How many creatures are eaten alive every day?
Should one have empathy for someone who stubs a toe? It…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoStrega wrote:
@unseen you made the exact point that I also thought. Empathy is the feeling when you can relate to an injury or event because you have been through similar events and you feel knowledgable sympathy. You do not feel anyone else’s experience.Indeed, if I stub my toe and keep quiet about it, who is going to say “I feel your pa…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Try explaining what water is to a fish.I think the limiting factor there is probably the fish’s level of intellection.
You can certainly explain to a human of reasonable intelligence who’s awake what air is.
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Unseen replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
In other words, Nielsen would agree with Wittgenstein’s skepticism about the internal comparison but lean even harder toward dismissing the worry as philosophically idle — what matters is shared public criteria for use, not metaphysical guarantees of inner sameness.I think that is essentially the conclusion Wit…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoTry explaining what water is to a fish.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Yes, Wittgenstein argued that there’s no way to verify if two people feel the same thing internally. His “private language argument” basically says that sensations are private, but the language we use about them is public and is only meaningful because it connects to public criteria like behavior and expre… -
Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoIn Wittgenstein’s famous discussion of pain and private language he points out that there is no way to know what someone else senses. If you and I coincidentally stub our toes at the same time and react simultaneously in a similar fashion, is this sufficient to declare that we both feel the same thing? No, and there’s no way to verify the not…[Read more]
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School April 27th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 12 months agoBut if I see you stub your toe, and I am at all sympathetic with you, then I will feel your pain by empathy. We’ve evolved that as part of the human suite of cooperative abilities.
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