Unseen

Both those are beautiful, @unseen.  And I read your ghoulish lullaby to my wife last night, she of the horror genre film adherents, and she loved it!

@unseen That ‘fear of death’ is probably the most duplicitous in terms of the religious solution. When something scares you, you can either come to terms with it, or believe a pretty fairy tale.  The problem with the pretty fairy tale, is that it doesn’t enable the believer to actually come to terms with their fear, and move forward ac…[Read more]

@unseen, thanks for capturing my point so succinctly.

@unseen – “The point, I suppose, is that science and its vaunted method, is just that: a method.”

– that’s very true, and it rasises the possibility of a “religious method”.  If science is all about truth, and being as true as possible, the religious method would explore truth and love (the pressure to thrive, survive and reproduce).  Of c…[Read more]

@strega – “Some stuff” 

– I’ve used the metaphor of the living waters and the mustard seed from Jesus, and the rock and the water from Daoism; “love God, and love your neighbour as yourself” from Jesus, “He is not a believer who eats his fill while his neighbour remains hungry by his side.” from the Prophet Mohammed.  I’m sure there are a lot o…[Read more]

@unseen We are discussing genital ‘editing’ of babies, in order to safeguard them from experiences that they aren’t likely to be exposed to until they are an adult.  If this is the case, then there is no need to ‘edit’ genitalia at birth, since the protection apparently provided by this operation is not expected to kick in until they are ad…[Read more]

That’s a great write-up, @unseen. It’s exhausting just trying to keep up with the daily insanity. It feels like America has come to a fork in the road and that it will be decided this year.  If trump is making a total power grab, he will likely need to do that before the November mid-terms, when the likelihood is that democrats will take the Hous…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
@unseen – “What if a guy with money finds himself attracted only to women who schmooz and play up to him? They don’t have only themselves to blame? I blame them.” – what if Paris only finds itself attracted to Isis terrorists? I think your analogy doesn’t work. @robert – “the mental torture, manipulation, and provocation. Ju…

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@unseen – “What if a guy with money finds himself attracted only to women who schmooz and play up to him? They don’t have only themselves to blame? I blame them.”

– what if Paris only finds itself attracted to Isis terrorists?  I think your analogy doesn’t work.

@Robert – “the mental torture, manipulation, and provocation. Just a mean son of a…[Read more]

@unseen – we’re talking about the thin end of a very nasty wedge.  I can understand women getting upset about things like that.  How would you like it?

Simon Paynton wrote:
@unseen – “Why shouldn’t free speech include trolling, hate speech, etc.” – because the only intention of trolling and hate speech is intimidation and harrassment, rather than communicating ideas or some similar neutral action. I disagree with the verdict in the recent case brought up by David Boots where a girl was prosecute…

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@unseen – “Why shouldn’t free speech include trolling, hate speech, etc.”

– because the only intention of trolling and hate speech is intimidation and harrassment, rather than communicating ideas or some similar neutral action.

I disagree with the verdict in the recent case brought up by David Boots where a girl was prosecuted for including t…[Read more]

@unseen – “I think I smell a contrary opinion.”

– it’s an opinion.  What do you think of its validity?

Simon Paynton wrote:
@unseen – “aggressiveness beats assertiveness every time” – it depends what you mean by “beats”. Assertiveness gives a better long-term outcome than either submissiveness or aggression.

Simon, I know the difference between an opinion and a fact. I think I smell a contrary opinion.

@unseen – “aggressiveness beats assertiveness every time”

– it depends what you mean by “beats”.  Assertiveness gives a better long-term outcome than either submissiveness or aggression.

@unseen I find it slightly amusing that you think women broadly are discussing men who go their own way.  I have a reasonable presence on social media, and I’d never come across the abbreviation MGTOW, nor any women who feel they can’t find a man because of a group tendency called this.

Oddly, I have come across the term ‘incels’ a fair bit.  Thi…[Read more]

@unseen – “What is the “similar theme” you think my posts revolve around?”

– it does sound like you’ve got an anti-woman agenda going on there.

Simon Paynton wrote:
@unseen – “Not cheating when making deals. All have been held to be okay by some society in the past.” – can you name this society, or give evidence of it?

Never heard of “The Travelers” (aka “The Irish Travelers”)? Gypsy societies with thousands or even tens of thousands of members who have prospered largely based on cons.…[Read more]

@unseen – “Not cheating when making deals. All have been held to be okay by some society in the past.”

– can you name this society, or give evidence of it?

@unseen, have you seen the Jordan Peterson video that @belen posted, on this subject?

https://atheistzone.com/groups/sunday-school/forum/topic/sunday-school-may-6th-2018/#post-9041