Sunday School

[_Robert_Participant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

I watched Maher’s commentary about his visit to the White House. I was surprised by it but will decide once I catch the full show later, including the Overtime section with Steve Bannon.

I get that Maher is all about cross partisan communication and dialogue. Have you ever talked with a hardcore MAGA? You may as well talk to a brick wall.  His take on Trump’s temporary bedside manner is meaningless as the nation transitions to oligarch driven, dictatorship that completely disregards the constitution, rule of law and decades of fruitful partnerships with allies. Putin is the new leadership role model.

 

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Have you ever talked with a hardcore MAGA?

Yes, once in Atlanta and once in PCB, Fl. The former was during the 2021 run off election when, for a few hours, it looked possible that Republican Herschel Walker could win. I was watching the crowds at the voting hall and talking to any random person that spoke to me.  When I first heard Herschel Walker I thought it was a joke that he was running. When local people were ready to vote against their own interests and for someone of the caliber of Walker, I realized that the Republican party was no more and it was all MAGA from then on. People were glazed over telling me about Trump and Covid conspiracies. Then a group of them started praying in the car park for Walker and Trump. I said “Have a blessed day” and went home. It was….weird.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Hardcore woke. Hardcore MAGA. Not much difference really.

I would be more alarmed by Trump were i to credit Maher’s take. From literally the first time i heard him and ascribed to him idiocy the idea formed that he is just driven by an atypical personality and is essentially amoral. A guy who will act impulsively and not in the public interest but to serve his needs.

But what if he is actually playing a demented politician because he sees that persona as the mechanism or means of aggrandizement and power? An everyday Joe Hero to be relatable to every man. Evil and stupid is in most instances less threatening than evil and conniving/intelligent. Trump is a diabolical monomoniacal sadomasochistic capriciously malevolent bully…to steal a line… If so lets hope he is not a war monger. Does not seem to be. Seems like a guy who fancies himself a great negotiator who can posture his way to victory.

[_Robert_Participant]

jakelafort wrote:

If so lets hope he is not a war monger. Does not seem to be. Seems like a guy who fancies himself a great negotiator who can posture his way to victory.

I agree, but he may still blunder his way to war. If you force China to become independent from the US economy…a mutually beneficial trade system is over and done. Even our allies can’t trust us anymore. Our isolationism contributed to WW2. Will it contribute to WW3? Invasive dictators never stop on their own.

[_Robert_Participant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

Have you ever talked with a hardcore MAGA? Yes, once in Atlanta and once in PCB, Fl. The former was during the 2021 run off election when, for a few hours, it looked possible that Republican Herschel Walker could win. I was watching the crowds at the voting hall and talking to any random person that spoke to me. When I first heard Herschel Walker I thought it was a joke that he was running. When local people were ready to vote against their own interests and for someone of the caliber of Walker, I realized that the Republican party was no more and it was all MAGA from then on. People were glazed over telling me about Trump and Covid conspiracies. Then a group of them started praying in the car park for Walker and Trump. I said “Have a blessed day” and went home. It was….weird.

Herschel Walker! Yeah, there you have it. He’s got nothing on the 3 Stooges.

[jakelafortParticipant]

Sunday school has had a few articles involving unforseen consequences. How this apparent debacle in tariffs and related Trumpery will play out no human can know. Seems safe to predict no good will come of it and yet we don’t know.

[_Robert_Participant]

jakelafort wrote:

Sunday school has had a few articles involving unforseen consequences. How this apparent debacle in tariffs and related Trumpery will play out no human can know. Seems safe to predict no good will come of it and yet we don’t know.

True, however the long duration bond market is probably the most accurate economy predictor. It isn’t happy. Selloffs raise rates and it costs the Fed more to borrow. Tariff instability weakens the US dollar and hurts reserve currency status. Gold is up too.

I also doubt tariffs will bring Walmart’s widget factories back here, but what it does bring back will have to be basically jobless and automated. It is an especially weak business case if imported raw materials are needed.

Maybe it’s a good 50- or 100-year plan? I don’t know. If this is just all about negotiating better trade deals, the administration better get moving before the world goes elsewhere to do business.

[_Robert_Participant]

Brilliant parents of child killed by measles.

[UnseenParticipant]

_Robert_ wrote:

I agree, but he may still blunder his way to war.

What do you think will happen if he attempts a Ukraine-like takeover of Greenland, which is part of Denmark, which is part of NATO?

[UnseenParticipant]

jakelafort wrote:

Sunday school has had a few articles involving unforseen consequences. How this apparent debacle in tariffs and related Trumpery will play out no human can know. Seems safe to predict no good will come of it and yet we don’t know.

In Idaho, of all places, 12,500+ show up for Bernie and AOC’s Anti-Oligarchy Tour.

Trump doesn’t give a shit anymore now that he won and the GOP is working hard to fix future elections.

His tariff war is hitting red states and counties even harder than blue. As the world figures out alternative sources for our farm goods, and as the immigrant workers who provide our farm labor are forced out, family farmers, who always live on a razor’s edge, are going bankrupt. Their farms are being taken over by gigantic corporations.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

Judging from that video, Idahoans weren’t in good shape even before Trump if they are that dependent on thousnds of illegal aliens and food banks.

Idahoans should welcome no politicians and instead welcome every AI, automation, Genetic Engineering, and satellite Internet firms including comepetitors with Elon. Let SkyNet, HAL, and friends do all the grunt work and let Idahoans learn to code and maintain the machines.

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[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Robert,

Parents like this are arguments for vaccines provided in Epi-Pens with temperature-controlled delivery service…as well as home vasectomy and tubal ligation kits for those too dumb for the vaccines.

[UnseenParticipant]

TheEncogitationer wrote:

Judging from that video, Idahoans weren’t in good shape even before Trump if they are that dependent on thousnds of illegal aliens and food banks.

Clearly we are heading toward a future where there will be relatively few jobs, and many of those low-paying. Of course, that doesn’t apply to the oligarchs who will benefit from the automation and efficiencies that eliminate jobs.

We are not preparing for this future which is not far off. It’s happening before our eyes.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

The average person would also benefit from AI and automation if all they had to do was debug the processors and spray clods off of the automated plows and oil the machines. Humans would also still have to provide oversight if AI made mistakes. As I’ve pointed out earlier, they still need art lessons.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

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