Jim

@ Simon

But the domination of women’s sexuality in the U.S. is not done by men per se but by one political party, pretty much with the assent of its female members.

I don’t see liberal democratic/Democrat males playing much of a role, so I don’t see it as a gender thing.

Unseen wrote:
So, you’re saying that males treat women like a resource and compete for that resource and that is how patriarchy comes about(?).

Pretty much.  Humans turn competition into cooperation via social norms.  The way they obtain that resource is through domination and control of women’s sexuality.

Robert,

No one here thinks rape or violence against ANYONE is OK. Around here the women complain men don’t approach them. So many guys just don’t want some “only fans” content creator. It’s not rape culture, its divorce culture and well since the man will get it in the ass, I guess you could still call it rape culture. It’s so great that now we…

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@ Simon

So, you’re saying that males treat women like a resource and compete for that resource and that is how patriarchy comes about(?).

Unseen wrote:
Males as a group don’t gang up against females as if we are in a competition with them for some kind of resource or advantage. That’s patent nonsense.

I’m not saying that males compete with females for resources.  That would be nonsensical like you say.  I’m saying that primate males compete with each other for females.  Humans…[Read more]

Davis,

If this is what hockey players talk about in the locker room, and if sexual assault is a pattern with your own partners, you might want to consider taking up a new hobby and getting a new circle of friends, associates and potential partners, not to mention calling your local Ossifer Friendly.

I don’t know what the culture is like in the…[Read more]

Rape is very likely a biological reality. Chimps are rapists too and they share most of our dna

Indeed. Humans have the capacity to rape, murder, lie, commit genocide against millions, enslave, spread pointless hate. They also have the ability to modify this behaviour, by making actually very small sacrifices to increase overall safety,…[Read more]

@ Simon

Males as a group don’t gang up against females as if we are in a competition with them for some kind of resource or advantage. That’s patent nonsense.

I think it goes back to the days when if you wanted meat, you had to go out and fight for the bigger critters that could sustain the group for a while. You can snare a rabbit or shoot a…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
I don’t. I know most religious societies do to a greater or lesser extent and that is one of the reasons why religions persist.

I was generalising.  I didn’t say which human males.  I think actually sometimes all of society participates in it, especially when organised religion enters the picture.

The Barbara Smu…[Read more]

if we accept that human males cooperate to dominate and control females..

I don’t. I know most religious societies do to a greater or lesser extent and that is one of the reasons why religions persist.

jakelafort wrote:
Rape is very likely a biological reality. Chimps are rapists too and they share most of our dna.

Here’s something I read recently: patriarchy in a nutshell, if we accept that human males cooperate to dominate and control females, via social norms, while chimpanzee males compete to dominate and control females.

When a female…

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Color me ignorant on political neologisms. Rape culture is another one that i am not up on.

So here are my two cents and a stale bagel thoughts.

Rape is very likely a biological reality. Chimps are rapists too and they share most of our dna.

So i am sure rape occurs in every culture and among every group. However there are conditions that…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Old fashioned parenting would go a long, long way. In fact, there is not much wrong with society that great parenting can’t help to make much better. We could use parenting schools, IMHO. I’m sure that government can spend and do more to help raise poor kids. Is that what we really want and does it even work?

Every ethnic gro…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:

_Robert_ wrote:
Actually, I’m OK with that concept. But I know the far left isn’t. Black Americans do need to take a hard look at why black on black murder is the leading cause of death for young black males. Oh, but that’s racist! Remember, feelings are the most important thing, more important than murder.

So, if it’s not the muc…

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Fuck political propaganda branding-language such as “Islamophobia” and “Rape Culture”.  It’s only good for dim-witted virtue signaling. Islam persecutes women, LGBTQ, and non-Muslims everywhere it exists. If you call yourself a liberal and can’t see that, you are pathetic.

_Robert_ wrote:
Exactly who are all these people allowing males to harass or get inappropriate with women in modern Western society?

Murder happens at alarmingly higher rates in African American culture. I guess we should call African Americans a “murder culture”, huh? It starts with rap music, property crimes and moves on the drugs and eve…

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Islamophobia is a term i had some ambivalence over because on the one hand as an antitheist it makes ISLAM the subject. To that extent i thought fuck that shit. On other hand Autumn if i recall argued it is a legit term that calls out bigotry against Muslims. I am opposed to any sort of bigotry that comes down on individuals for their sexual…[Read more]

Question for y’all who claim not to be Islamophobic, if you’re not Islamophobic, what does an Islamophobe look like? How do you define it?

_Robert_ wrote:
Actually, I’m OK with that concept. But I know the far left isn’t. Black Americans do need to take a hard look at why black on black murder is the leading cause of death for young black males. Oh, but that’s racist! Remember, feelings are the most important thing, more important than murder.

So, if it’s not the much higher rate…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
They don’t need your creepy patriarchy camera anymore with millions of young girls essentially doing porn in their bedrooms. They will have their fatherless children who will get to see mom in action. Just imagine how proud they will be!

Channeling Jerry Falwell’s ghost, I see. LOL

So, you’re seriously alleging that men w…[Read more]