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  • Davis replied to the topic Religious Parents in the forum Advice 7 years, 11 months ago

    This is a brutal situation. The only thing I recommend is not immediately buying into the argument that:

    “You must always be authentic with yourself, otherwise you do a diservice to yourself and others like you”. For example, if you are gay and can get away with being gay (though admiting unpleasant but not fatal or corporal familiar…[Read more]

  • Yes yes yes. Answers to moral questions on abortion clearly depend on the moral system and with most moral systems (though not all) that the cut off line in fetus gestation is a matter of opinion. However, there are two extreme end which I find tautologically correct. The removal of an egg which has divided several times is virtually no different…[Read more]

  • The pro-brexit side has never claimed the UK will be better off after leaving the EU

     WHAT?????? They never stop claiming this. I’ve never heard a pro-Brexit MP or activist who admitted the opposite. They make endless claims that [magically] they will be better off. Unfortunately, I don’t think UK politics is covered much in the US  media. th…[Read more]

  • Nice Sunday School reg

  • Re: Prémontval’s terrible proof of God. Only some possible beings have the quality of siety, because they won the birth lottery. It’s not that difficult to understand There are a gazillion gazillion gazillion possible beings and that’s limiting humans to having any DNA that doesn’t stop you from being born and living for more than a fe…[Read more]

  • Davis replied to the topic For Starters… in the forum Group logo of ConsciousnessConsciousness 7 years, 11 months ago

    Indeed Robert but the questions I’m talking about start with his question but then go beyond the authors argument and not limiting consciousness to the “experience, rerepresentation, cognitive realisations and evocation.

    I admire the guy and his interesting proposal. In any case, we shouldn’t take this article too too seriously. All writings on…[Read more]

  • Davis replied to the topic For Starters… in the forum Group logo of ConsciousnessConsciousness 7 years, 11 months ago

    Great article. I particularly like his explanation of mistaking meta-consciousness with consciousness.

    When infants become conscious/meta-conscious (assuming they weren’t when born) is part of one of the annoying pesky questions about consciousness. If children aren’t born conscious then there must be a moment that they become conscious and d…[Read more]

  • Indeed. This boils down to the problem of Evil. How can a perfect amazing moral amaze-balls God allow suffering on an epic scale?

    There are various answers that Christian appologists give:

    Suffering is not evil, it is simply a lack of God. God sometimes takes a break and goes on vacation leaving a God vacuum. Why? We will find out in the next…[Read more]

  • The control of the border issue is all the more ridiculous considering the UK and Ireland were the ony Western European countries not part of the Schengen treaty meaning people still had to present passports or ID at the border while I could drive from Lisbon to Warsaw without a single border check. The UK really had the best arrangement, a…[Read more]

  • Hi Emma. Welcome to Atheist Zone!!! What led you to giving up belief in the bearded man in the sky?

  • When a bomb filled with nails goes off in a European cafe, we all know who did it. At the same time, when a protestant law maker is shot in Northern Ireland…we also know who did it. When a Bhuddist temple is set on Fire in Sri Lanka we also know who did it. And when a village of Muslim refuges is set on fire…we all know who did it. When the…[Read more]

  • _Robert_ wrote:
    Nationalism is a bit like a drug. You don’t have to think or work and yet you feel better. You see the far left align with immigrants and you imagine the death of your national culture and way of life. There are elements of truth to the fears.

    To  some extent, yes!

  • If you ever want to catch the modern political equivalent of the lunacy of religious zealots along with their misguided faith, stubborn stupidity and self-destruction taking everyone else down with them…look no further than Brexit.

    Take for instance the Telegraphs article titled (paywall): The EU is taking a huge gamble that we will surrender…[Read more]

  • Davis posted an update 7 years, 11 months ago

    We are all aware, directly aware, that we make choices. We make choices every day. No…make that every second we aren’t sleeping. Ranging from unimportant, involuntary automatic decisions to anguished vacillating well thought out desperate decisions. The question is…are those decisions totally in the control of the cold universe where what…[Read more]

    • Your account of the development of the issue(s) reminds me of how theists rationalize. The Earles, Doctor Bobs, Jordan Petersons are conflicted. On one hand they are repelled by the absence of reason in support of their darling, on other they emotionally need their belief. So they rationalize to reconcile the conflict.

      Without their personal…[Read more]

      • Well Jake, first of all, its all theorhetic and no one is making any strong claims. Christians do. SEcondly, none of these people are making supernatural claims but trying to understand how individual choice is meaningful in a clockwork universe…which isn’t even remotely like Christians arguing out of negatives and arguments from ignorance nor…[Read more]

        • Or one can stand on a Soap box and keep proclaiming that the sun doesn’t revolve around the Earth and when people conceded this and ask if the Earth can be centric in any sense, well, stick your fingers in your ears and go…[Read more]

          • Meanwhile the Moon keeps going around the Earth as well as all sorts of Satellites and space junk.

          • So Davis you misunderstand me. I am not calling philosophers who work on issues related to free will theists. It is not an analogy i am drawing. (It is a dynamic. )Instead i am questioning whether their objectivity is compromised because of their discomfort in a life without any vestige of free will. Theists who have an intellectual bent are not…[Read more]

            • By the way, I should point out that two other members here have read through Freedom Evolves, our resident Fronkey Farmer and Simon Matthews (I wish he was still around). He offered a nice summary of the book on Thinkatheist, though you’ll forgive me if I don’t root through 800 comments of his on the old site to find it.

            • Thank you Davis for the many references. If i get sufficiently curious and ambitious i shall procure one of those. Lately i just go to library and buy used books cheap cheap.

  • Unseen wrote:
    Amazing!

    Who said facts? Who said the brain is exempt from physical laws? You’re the only one who brings this up. In fact, you have always been the only person claiming that something supernatural must be happening for there to be free will. You are so out of the loop…no one talks about that anymore. It’s clear you haven’t even…[Read more]

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