Unseen

jakelafort wrote:
Color me ignorant. But i am not sure why ascertaining the origin is so important.

Autumn wrote:
We have to know the right way to play victim over it.

I’ve mentioned more than a few times by now, it’s important to know BOTH possible origins, even when I believe in probable zoonotic origin. As technology evolves and knowledge…[Read more]

@unseen – you might be interested in this BBC programme https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001mdfw/episodes/player

they’re never going to know the answer: there are arguments for both sides, but the origin is likely to remain shrouded in mystery.

I started a long response to a back and forth between Unseen and I, and haven’t finished it. Real life gets in the way. Like Reg’s recommended article!

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Here is an article from today’s NYT magazine. It is a long read.

Wow, that was the most comprehensive and well written overview I’ve seen on zoonotic vs lab leak o…[Read more]

In the video at 2:05, he says “Even given the information  that surfaced the three years since the covid-19 pandemic began, some have contended that there’s really no point in investigating the origin of this virus.” Oh really? Only idiots would say that, like some probably in his audience.

While the more serious problems are the idiots that say…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
@unseen – I agree with what you say – it is all of those things. But it also has a “legitimate” meaning or something it’s supposed to mean – to be “awake” to the fact that Western society is inherently oppressive to certain demographics – i.e., everyone who isn’t a cisgendered straight white male. Now, is it also oppressive…

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@unseen – I agree with what you say – it is all of those things.  But it also has a “legitimate” meaning or something it’s supposed to mean – to be “awake” to the fact that Western society is inherently oppressive to certain demographics – i.e., everyone who isn’t a cisgendered straight white male.  Now, is it also oppressive to cisgendered s…[Read more]

@Unseen Baby,

I want you to know that I’m writing the following sincerely, without condescension, mockery, or potentially confusing irony.

Thank you for the informative Politico article. IMO, it adds great value to your topic. I hope you can bear with me, I did try to keep the following short.

When taking a Critical Thinking class, I learned…[Read more]

Belle Rose wrote:
@unseen I don’t think lobotomies is the cure for that lol

I do. Is your belief based on a better one? A lobotomy may take away someone’s humanity, in a sense, but what if the person is inhuman?

@Unseen

I don’t think lobotomies is the cure for that lol

Belle Rose wrote:
@unseen Remember: when COVID first hit it was a “novel” virus. Messaging changed over time as the science/data evolved and that’s STILL happening and it’s going to keep happening for quite a while. Some data can’t even be analyzed yet. C’mon Unseen you know this!

Even so, the studies are now casting doubt on the efficacy of…[Read more]

@Unseen

Remember: when COVID first hit it was a “novel” virus. Messaging changed over time as the science/data evolved and that’s STILL happening and it’s going to keep happening for quite a while. Some data can’t even be analyzed yet. C’mon Unseen you know this!

Belle Rose wrote:
@unseen, I read that newsweek article you linked. It lacked substance and detail. It failed to state specifically what the author believed were the mistakes that we made. What specific mistakes do you think they made?

Confusing messaging over time. At first, the “experts” thought masking was pointless, even…[Read more]

@Unseen, I read that newsweek article you linked. It lacked substance and detail. It failed to state specifically what the author believed were the mistakes that we made.

What specific mistakes do you think they made?

Belle Rose wrote:
@unseen So is that your way of saying that you were just fucking with us? Lol

No. It’s always been my way to make sure “the other side” gets a hearing. That is not “fucking with” anyone.

@unseen

So is that your way of saying that you were just fucking with us? Lol

@Unseen

My point was (I’ll emphasize it for you) that it seems vaccination exposes one to many more risks than just myocarditis. But whatever… LOL

So does COVID. And effects of the vaccine are temporary, the effects of the actual virus can be permanent.

I think the notion that once you get vaccinated you get “magically immune” from ever getting…[Read more]

Belle Rose wrote:
@unseen

This occurred to me as a response.

That really sucks. You know what also really sucks? One of my really good friends from high school was pregnant with twins when the pandemic first started. She herself is a nurse and healthy as a horse. This was before the vaccine was even available. She caught Covid at work which of…

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