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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months ago
@regthefronkeyfarmer – what does LLM think of your proof of Dracula?
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months agoJake,
With all that’s going on, I forgot to tell you that in spite of everything going on, I hope Hannukah finds you peaceful.
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And to everyone, Happy Holidays!
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months agoRobert,
I think stupid college kids and lefty professors are way less dangerous to democracy or Jews than the Christian national right/MAGA/Neofascists by 1000x . What is “woke” but kids rebelling against their parents. People who at least care about the disenfranchised.
It is possible to walk and chew gum at the same time…away from both of…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months ago
The best you’ve got are symbolic arguments – “this” symbolises “that” and therefore “the other”. That’s not enough to prove something is real.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months ago@theencogitationer – the answers to both your points are “cooperation, sharing, and risky foraging niche”. The great apes are savage to each other, and especially the pre-human (pre- Ardipithecus ramidus, 4-6 million years ago) great apes, as we surmise from looking at the relative canine sizes of males and females. A big difference, with big m…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months ago
King Iyk wrote:
You cannot reasonably expect me to prioritize your opinion over that of a system more knowledgeable than you and demonstrably superior at processing and validating data. That is precisely the point.Yes, but:
- argument from authority never cuts it.
- AI can’t tell you if the inputs to your argument are real or not: if there…
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months agoSimon,
But you’re talking from the position of your armchair, off the top of your head, with no evidence.
The burden of proof rests with those who assert that there was a Garden of Eden/Golden Age/Noble Savagery.
Also, we know there is both intra-species and inter-species violence in the Animal Kingdom and the Primate Order of which Humans a…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months agoTheEncogitationer wrote:
There was NO Garden of Eden, NO Golden Age, NO Noble Savagery.However, Power, oppression, and patriarchy did exist at least on a small scale and money existed when barter got too complicated
But you’re talking from the position of your armchair, off the top of your head, with no evidence.
Uh, ackshuyally, that did…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months ago
King Iyk wrote:
The 12-hour clock is not introduced as a mere human preference but as the actual temporal framework in which the crucifixion was recorded by the cultures that carried it out (Roman and Jewish). When Jewish and Roman timekeeping are synchronized at that historical event, the result is not a vague pattern but a specific geometric… -
Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months ago
King Iyk wrote:
You could disprove this entire demonstration by conceiving an alternative demonstration of GodWe’re not going to do this, because we’re atheists and don’t believe in God, and none of us believes it’s possible to prove (or disprove) the existence of God.
If we’re arguing against your argument for the proof of God’s existence,…[Read more]
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months agoRobert:
Oh, this real first-rate smooth brain chatter, LOL. The left “awakened the far right’s latent Jew hate”. That’s brilliant.
So where is Jake wrong here? He’s just saying that one hand washes the other, especially when both are embarked on the same ugly goal.
The left isn’t looking for that final solution to the Jesus killers, the rejec…
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months agoSimon,
No power, no oppression, no money, no patriarchy? Sounds great. It’s true that people died very young though.
Did you read what I just said? There was NO Garden of Eden, NO Golden Age, NO Noble Savagery.
However, Power, oppression, and patriarchy did exist at least on a small scale and money existed when barter got too c…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months ago
King Iyk wrote:
here, AI is not inventing; it is verifying a convergence of real-world data that no human forced. the proof is not just consistent, it is grounded. The data speak. The convergence stands. Q.E.D. still holds. If the premises are real, fixed, and independent, and they are, then a necessary structure arising from them is not merely… -
Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months ago
• historically attested timestamps (3rd, 6th, 9th hour)
• independently defined timekeeping systems (Jewish and Roman)
• mathematically necessary properties of digital roots (3-6-9)
• geometric constraints of a 12-hour clock (3-6-9-12)This proof does not operate on visual noise or perceptual ambiguity. It operates on two immater…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School December 14th 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months agoStrega wrote:
it’s not just people dying, like snuffing out a candle. It’s about leprosy, polio, and a million savage unrepairable wounds. It’s about the misery of pain, and the proximity to animal violence that pervaded in your ‘sounds great’ description.I take your point, that living conditions and the lack of advanced medicine would have made…[Read more]
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School December 21st 2025 in the forum
Sunday School 6 months agoReg:
Arizona senator who thinks mankind came from monkeys has a say in childhood education.
Senator Farnsworth didn’t say he thought mankind came from monkeys, but rather that the Theory of Evolution said so. He is doing a good impersonation of a monkey by flinging poop, though.
Also, Mitzi Epstein got it wrong when she said that “Evolution…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months, 1 week ago
It may well be that @kingiyk‘s “proof” is logically consistent, i.e., logically valid. When AI checks it, it validates it on the grounds of internal logical consistency.
But that’s not the same as being empirically valid – valid in the real world. To be valid in the real world, all the premises have to be real (I don’t know – I assume) and t…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months, 1 week ago
Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
The Trinity presupposes a God-concept that the Bible itself never articulates.But that doesn’t prove the Trinity is wrong.
Can we atheists recognise the wrongness of a description of something we think doesn’t exist? Not even wrong?
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months, 1 week ago
Simon Paynton wrote:
An AI proof isn’t proof.Unless it’s a dedicated theorem prover, or an AI program which has specifically been asked to prove a theorem, without flattering the user.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic A Formal Mathematical Model of The Holy Trinity. in the forum Atheism 6 months, 1 week ago
TheEncogitationer wrote:
It puts out affirmation for every bit of nonsenseI think that AI flatters people.
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