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TheEncogitationer wrote:
I’m saying there was no Garden of Eden or “Golden Age” or “Noble Savagery”, whether terrifying, beautiful, or otherwise.

No power, no oppression, no money, no patriarchy?  Sounds great.  It’s true that people died very young though.

Simon,

You’re talking about life in the Garden of Eden. I think it must have been both terrifying and beautiful.

I’m saying there was no Garden of Eden or “Golden Age” or “Noble Savagery”, whether terrifying, beautiful, or otherwise.

TheEncogitationer wrote:
As rotten as things can be today, it was always worse in times past.

You’re talking about life in the Garden of Eden.  I think it must have been both terrifying and beautiful.

Simon:

It did, and any political violence is deplorable. Even if he was aggressively anti-liberal, he had the right idea in debating people.

You are correct and I certainly wasn’t supporting that as an option. Just pointing out that all ways of dealing with opposing viewpoints have outcomes that are hard to pin down.

Simon:

All the more reason to look after them and try and heal them.

Come to think of it, you’re right here. I suppose that’s where the role of medicine man/shaman came from.

Still, the earliest known writing wasn’t around during hunter/gatherer times, so any medical wisdom they had would have spread by oral tradition, with the Telephone…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
But if too many members of a tribe got injured or sick at once, wouldn’t that mean less hunting and gathering and everyone would starve?

All the more reason to look after them and try and heal them.

I read of an instance where a hunter-gatherer tribe left behind an old lady who had dementia.  If people were/are being lo…[Read more]

Simon:

That’s not true at all. There’s plenty of evidence of prehistoric people caring for their sick and injured, and this evidence increases as we get nearer the present day.

There’s no denying that primitive people certainly got injured often. I know this from a flintknapping class where we had to wear safety goggles, leather gloves, and…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
And an assassin’s bullet did nothing but give Charlie Kirk martyr status

It did, and any political violence is deplorable.  Even if he was aggressively anti-liberal, he had the right idea in debating people.

@jakelafort – I stay out of the “left”, I won’t sign my name to any ideology.  I find them totally nuts.  I saw that Instagram post, and they seem to have forgotten that slavery was invented in the Bronze Age.  I’ve had conversations with feminists who are completely ideology-bound until you shock them out of it.  The big problem is gro…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
There would be little place for the very young, the very old, or the sick and infirm in a Hunter-Gatherer world.

That’s not true at all.  There’s plenty of evidence of prehistoric people caring for their sick and injured, and this evidence increases as we get nearer the present day.

E.g.:…[Read more]

Simon:

That’s pretty much what woke people used to say. I don’t think we should cancel people, I think we should talk to them and debate them.

Talk and debate is good when it can actually change minds. With the Woke and MAGA crowds that need changing, I’m thinking they are too much in their own echo chambers to be reached.

Tucker Car…[Read more]