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Alejandro, my apologies if you are reading this. In my haste, I foolishly deleted you as an AtheistZone member after reading Anna’s post. Please sign up again. (I have no other way to contact you.)

Yes Anna, thank you for this warning! I deleted this member a couple hours ago. So I suspect that you’ve copy/ pasted that text from an email, or from an old AZ post that that should have also disappeared? Please let me know if you still see this post anywhere on AZ.

This also goes for any friend requests from this scammer… I believe those…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Is that an equitable settlement?

To all people of faith, and many atheists: Keep in mind that anyone angry at God are misdirecting their anger toward a fictional being. It’s human beings who keep the ideas of invisible gods, goods, and evils going.

Atheist Zone came from Think Atheist (TA). Asking for money was unsuccessful there, so we volunteers (including the new owner of TA) moved here to AZ which costs significantly less to maintain. I think of it as a community service, and wish that any atheist org owner/principal thinking of giving up would reach out to other, similar orgs and offer…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
You have picked a side. The side the believers are on. And your sort of reasoning gives them oxygen and encouragement to go out and spread the word.

I’ve redacted what I first wrote here. It was just a silly, anoxic observation.

Fox News’ Owner Murdoch Predicts Biden Landslide Win

Article. (But I heard Murdoch predicted the same thing in 2016.)

Fun pic in story:

TheEncogitationer wrote:

An assertion not found in evidence.

True. Think I went out on a limb glibly, kinda making fun of logical arguments that probably wouldn’t matter at all to those believers out there who will just make up their own logic (or ignore it) in any case. God was a human — specifically-patriarchal invention from the very start of…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Omniscience is self-contradictory because it is a claim to knowledge without acquisition and verification, which cannot exist.

Unless the universe is just a module in God’s program.

Unseen wrote:
That whole “You can’t prove a negative” thing is bogus both in math/logic and real life. There’s no question A and Not-A i…

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Unseen wrote:
Do you know that there isn’t a rhinoceros in your bathroom, or do you have to look to make sure? I’m betting that you know. This is a kind of knowledge that only an absurd level of doubt can call into question.

Putting it that way, +1. Not even coy.

Silly Humans. My summary, as objectively as I can put it…

This is about science vs faith, i.e. what’s rational, logical, but most importantly what is documentable and repeatedly provable, VS faith, i.e. believing something just because it feels right regardless of lack of proof.

In addition to repeatably/universally understood proofs, science…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
We need to stop playing coy. God simply does not exist and it’s knowable and provable.

Hmm, how is that’s scientifically provable? Similar to the burden of proof being on the person declaring a fact would be proving that pink unicorns don’t exist. These things are not scientifically testable, much less provable.

I’m not “playing c…[Read more]

Maybe the Grim Reaper is a Trump Republican?

Meanwhile, wrt podcasts from The Lincoln Project (referred to in my first post):

• Simplest listening option (good if you’re still new to podcasts), hear their podcast via Google Podcasts

OR

• Lincoln Project Podcast listening options (direct links for podcast apps)

Thanks for helping me understand the question. Maybe I also didn’t consider authoritarianism as a reasonable option, on its surface. (I still don’t.)

Faith. Bad word in most cases here at AZ, and yet don’t people need to have faith in their leaders? Whether democratic or dictatorial. As Davis points out, the chances of getting the leadership…[Read more]

Forgive me for not really understanding the question.

Are the A, B, and C wrapped into one proposition we’re supposed to vote on? Then the proposition needs to be rewritten.

Or are you just pointing out how most people can’t get everything they want? E.g. taken to its extreme, we could be talking about a dozen issues A through L, and using the…[Read more]

Ivy, I still have my fingers crossed.

Meanwhile, I haven’t looked at TikTok for weeks, but the next couple days might be golden there! “Kids” there are the future, right?!

I appreciate PC access to TikTok, but right now I’m feeling like I wanna risk the addiction, fire up the mobile, and swipe swipe swipe…

Call me naive, but it looks to me like a Trump meltdown. Now he’s attacking his own loyal minions, and that’s after he’s gotten them infected.

This saga has turned from Reality Show to Unreality Show. I’ve been shocked repeatedly by the extent of President McNasty’s open hating against progressives and tacit encouragement of supremacists to come…[Read more]

My wife (now ex) took on the large project of searching the area for better public and private schools because of a public school we were currently disappointed with. She eventually found another, smaller public school, and we were fortunate by law in our area to be able to transfer to that school. It was a very good decision, and one teacher in…[Read more]

Andrew Brown wrote:
The easy part is done.

I’ve confirmed, as I only suspected before, that coming out as atheist is not always easy and not easy at all for some people. It activates the “shaming module” in a lot of believers, against non-believers.

I’ve learned that the faith-inducing blinders imposed by culture causes a lot of people to even…[Read more]