jakelafort

Simon, The Arabs leaders refused the 2 State solution that the Jewish leaders had accepted, back in 1947.  The Palestinians could have had their own State but decided they wanted more of the land designated to the Jewish State.  That was two years after the world learned about the Holocaust. A year later they found themselves in another war.

@_Robert_

And no, you don’t get to arbitrarily pick a date when Israel began just because it is in the modern era. There are very few places where the very original inhabitants are still there, and Israel is one of them. In fact, the entire Middle East was absolutely non-Muslim until they conquered the region through war while worshiping their w…[Read more]

@ Robert

But how many of those baddies would exist except in response to Israel?

By your standard the Iroquois Confederacy is a nation-state.  Like the European Jews, they were forced off their land and either forced onto reservations (open air concentration camps) or forced into the general colonial population where they are often reviled…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
The Jewish State of Israel is one of the oldest countries in the world. Muslims didn’t show up until 1900 years after it was established. After the Jews it was the Assyrians, Romans, Christians, Muslims and the Jews again, but some Jews remained in the area the whole time.

However, if the Brits did not enable the remains of the s…

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I like that reactor and have other responses later. Meanwhile…

@ Jake

I asked a simple question with a yes or no answer: Would the Middle East be the tinder box it is had Israel never been created?

I haven’t heard you or anyone else say “Yes, it would,” so essentially you all agree with me, or so it would appear.

I was asked today by some Irish guy wearing a keffiyeh as to why Israel would bomb Iran when it is actually Hezbollah in Lebanon doing the fighting. I replied that is because hundreds of Sudanese civilians were aerial bombed to death last week. I think I only confused him further. Then I asked him if he felt sorry for the soldiers that died when a…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:

Unseen wrote:
Clearly, that’s a roundabout nonsensical way of admitting that it’s likely the world would be a safer place. Thank you for your honesty. BTW, I’m not for abandoning Israel, but we need to be able to tell it forcibly on occasion that we aren’t backing it’s actions.

But surely it has a legitimate right to be the…

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jakelafort wrote:
They’re poisoning the well. Using good Christian babies’blood for their matzoh. We have to do something, anything to cleanse the earth of the scourge. Once they’re eliminated civilization will attain new and unexpected heights.

Umm… I think that may qualify as hate speech. BTW, while you were writing that, I added on  to my prior post.

jakelafort wrote:
Oh my god did you see what she was wearing? Was asking for it. F’in bitch!

Clearly, that’s a roundabout nonsensical way of admitting that it’s likely the world would be a safer place. Thank you for your honesty. BTW, I’m not for abandoning Israel, but we need to be able to tell it forcibly on occasion that we aren’t backing i…[Read more]

An operatic singer is blown away by The Warning, especially Dany’s vocal techniques and abilities.

jakelafort wrote:
Strap in. The anti-israel BS diatribe consisting of fallacies, ahistorical comments and reasoning on a level with a 10 yr old is starting.

Classic poisoning of the well, Would the Middle East be the tinder box it is had Israel never been created?

Can you answer that yes or no, Jake? Honestly,

Israel may very well be drawing us…[Read more]