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Enco,

Whataboutism with respect to my POV regarding the mythology and religion of lefty Jew Hatred is itself a way to deflect. It is a lowlife rhetorical tactic and a mainstay in the narratives of the lefty religionists. It keeps the lefties in a nice safe space where they can attack Jews and never look in the mirror.

While it is perfectly valid…[Read more]

Unseen,

Why do you assume they all speak with one voice? I’ll stick with genocide for myself. It sure looks like Netanyahu and his ilk won’t be done until the last man, woman, child, and infant is pushing up daisies. Apartheid was more applicable before the genocide began.

The Anti-Israel protestors are alleging all three.

So, if Israel is gen…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Unseen, So what is it, War, Genocide, or Apartheid? Anti-Israel protesters keep moving the goalposts here.

Why do you assume they all speak with one voice? I’ll stick with genocide for myself. It sure looks like Netanyahu and his ilk won’t be done until the last man, woman, child, and infant is pushing up daisies.…[Read more]

Unseen,

So what is it, War, Genocide, or Apartheid? Anti-Israel protesters keep moving the goalposts here.

And while Whataboutism is a Logical Fallacy, isn’t is also a Logical Faux Pas to have the soft bigotry of lowered expectations for Islamic and Third World peoples?

Again, October 7 happened on Netanyahu’s watch, so he’s not above scrutiny here.

jakelafort wrote:
The disproportionate contribution to science made by Jews is freaky. So is the disproportionate and often inaccurate laser focus on Israel as it prosecutes its war against Islam. How many lefties have even a passing familiarity with the following other than Ukraine where targeting civilians is not a topic of concern: Ukraine.…

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Enco,

In a way it is apples to morons comparing Jews to Muslims. Jews are an ethnicity and Muslims are morons the world over. To be in that cult is to experience a retardation in terms of intellectual development. Everything is explained. Just go to the mosque and all of the answers are given. Conform to all of the islamic norms or be…[Read more]

Jake,

Neil DeGrasse Tyson is in error about Economics not being a science, and in the larger body of the speech, he is in error on the origins of the numbers we use (they are Sanskrit, not Arabic.). But his basic position on contributions to science is correct.

In the larger speech he pointed out the religious reason why the Islamic world is…[Read more]

The disproportionate contribution to science made by Jews is freaky. So is the disproportionate and often inaccurate laser focus on Israel as it prosecutes its war against Islam. How many lefties have even a passing familiarity with the following other than Ukraine where targeting civilians is not a topic of concern: Ukraine. Syria. Yemen.…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Fellow Unbelievers, Sorry, I didn’t mean to repeat myself.

Not sure if this topic has been addressed but it is something that occurs to me from time to time.

People who are influential in various fields are well advised to choose their words carefully. Creationists are wont to seize on any soundbite that makes evolution seem questionable to the casual observer. Einstein never should have said god doesn’t…[Read more]

Reg,

Nota bene The inspiration for Orwell’s character of Big Brother was none other than JHVH-1 His Own Self.

Unseen wrote:
You have to remember the difference in what they may believe to be moral.

I think religious morality has plus and minus points.  “To please God” or “to get into heaven” aren’t bad reasons for doing moral things.

But like you say, different people think different things are moral.  The biggest drawback with religion is its t…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
“Name one moral action performed by a believer that could not have been done by a nonbeliever.”

Ummm… Bombing an abortion clinic? Murdering a doctor who performs abortions in their driveway in front of their wife/husband and/or their children?

You have to remember the difference in what they may believe to be moral.

Identify moral actions performed by an atheist that violate religious norms/codes/laws?

Identify religious norms/codes/laws that are immoral?

And yet many atheists are defensive, deferential about morality and say stupid shit like i can be good without god.

“What do you think, that i buried her behind this wall? Is that what you think?”

Yeah, they can’t seem to grasp that “judgement day”, as administered by the omniscient one, is just a symbolic formality.

However, Satan may have some accommodation issues if he doesn’t have advanced knowledge of our final verdict. It would seem he should at least have a very educated guess since he was causing all that temptation. Exactly how…[Read more]

Here is a question I like to ask theists in a “morality debate”. It usually goes along these lines:

Why is your god “always watching” you.

Pray tell Reg but whatever do you mean?

Can you please answer a straightforward question with an answer for once.

Our God is always with us so He sees all the deeds we do.

But why does He have to watch…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
“Name one moral action performed by a believer that could not have been done by a nonbeliever.”

I think that’s not the point. It’s not either/or. It’s good that both exist.

Simon, which is the more moral choice? The one a person makes because they are afraid an authoritarian god is watching…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
“Name one moral action performed by a believer that could not have been done by a nonbeliever.”

I think that’s not the point.  It’s not either/or.  It’s good that both exist.

@Simon – But when they do moral and ethical behavior well, they do it as well as or better than anyone else.

The Hitchens Challenge;

“Name one moral action performed by a believer that could not have been done by a nonbeliever.”