Jim

Simon, but that is what cults do!

They turn people into robots. Cults dehumanize and eradicate individuality. Cultists behave in reprehensible ways that would never occur in the absence of the cult. When cultist deviate from the clearly defined norms they risk severe punishment up to and including execution.

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jakelafort wrote:
Robert is describing the doctrine, belief and practices of that tiny cult. Is he tarring all 900 members of the cult? Or is he exposing the cult for what it is in simply describing it?

You can say that a cult has x, y and z doctrines, beliefs and practices.  But you can’t say that all the people in it are the same.

Simon, your words follow.

Religion is not a race, and therefore you’re not being racist. But it’s the same thing, to tar a whole group with the same negative brush.

So to use my example of a discrete cult of 900 in an enclave that is almost identical in its practices, belief and doctrine to Islam. And suppose Robert is describing the doc…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Scientifically speaking, there is only one human race: Homo sapiens. The concept of different “races” is a social construct, not a biological one.

The different ethnic groups look different and are different colours.  But I agree, those are superficial differences.

@jakelafort – Reg, do you think most of the deconverted are happy to have had their world view challenged and deconstructed?

In the long run, yes.  When Andy Dufresne escaped from Shawshank prison, he may have missed the social life he had with his friends inside but he never thought that returning to jail would be a solution. Returning…[Read more]

But it’s the same thing, to tar a whole group with the same negative brush.

Scientifically speaking, there is only one human race: Homo sapiens. The concept of different “races” is a social construct, not a biological one. We share more than 99.9% of the same DNA. Any physical differences are superficial and not indicative of any fundamental b…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Ah, OK. A religion is a race now.

Religion is not a race, and therefore you’re not being racist.  But it’s the same thing, to tar a whole group with the same negative brush.

_Robert_ wrote:
Ah, OK. A religion is a race now. Sorry, that’s profoundly dumb and you should know better. If someone believes and practices Islam as written and taught, they immediately drop 50 IQ points. Just look around at Muslim countries. AKA Shitholes. How many are democracies? What is their standard of living? How many are d…

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It is clear like a pellucid mountain stream cascading over sparkling rocks made smooth by the intermittent spring flow. Down down the mountainside will it go gathering in the downstream pools where polywogs will grow. The mainstream has few stragglers who fight the current’s flow. Otherwise the current carries all wherever it may go.

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_Robert_ wrote:
This is what fundamentalism does for you. And they are hell bent on spreading that misery everywhere.

Facts. And when those life stories of abused and made-dysfunctional human beings get to the point of “righteously” destroying the rest of humanity, the only thing we can do is remove them by force, and let Allah sort them out. I…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
@ Jake and Robert Yada yada, yada… It is wrong/unethical/immoral to make sweeping generalizations about a group, even Muslims. Additionally, it’s illogical. It’s the fallacy of composition. Example: Some people have turned a novel idea into a million dollar business. So, anyone with a novel idea can become a millionaire. Despi…

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@ Jake and Robert

Yada yada, yada…

It is wrong/unethical/immoral to make sweeping generalizations about a group, even Muslims.

Additionally, it’s illogical. It’s the fallacy of composition.

Example: Some people have turned a novel idea into a million dollar business. So, anyone with a novel idea can become a millionaire.

Despite all your…[Read more]

PopeBeanie wrote:
I’d still reserve compassion for the inbred kids, at least. And then the religion and culture they grow up in screws them up even further. I understand where Unseen’s coming from. A vaccination against Trump could save us from tons of distress and dysfunction. Nip that reverse evolution in the bud. Make wearing condoms a family t…

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I’d still reserve compassion for the inbred kids, at least. And then the religion and culture they grow up in screws them up even further.

I understand where Unseen’s coming from.

A vaccination against Trump could save us from tons of distress and dysfunction. Nip that reverse evolution in the bud. Make wearing condoms a family tradition.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Jewish people tend to be liberal in their attitudes (liberal in the sense Strega used it – not Orthodox) and are progressives on the core issues of civil rights for all citizens, more open to immigration and strongly support the separation of Church and State. These policies align more with traditional Democratic P…

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You are spot on Robert.

I have listened to one apostate after another and they are in disbelief at how stupid or misinformed the useful idiot progressives are.

And yes the idea of a two state solution is a joke. They are obsessed with what was first denying a Jewish state and later destroying a Jewish state. That ambition has been explicit in…[Read more]

I’ll tell you what happens….you marry little girls and rape sheep, you destroy ancient artifacts, you cut people’s heads off, you throw gays from rooftops, you fly planes into buildings and the only technology you even care about is rockets and suicide bombs to kill Jews and getting your hands on an atomic weapon to destroy every infidel on the…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
Now that we’re discussing, apparently seriously, whether Muslims are, as a group, stupid, shall we also ask the same about black people?

If you continuously inbreed yourselves and your education consists of repeating Koran and Hadith, and your women are dressed in sheets while being treated like farm animals and if art, music, s…[Read more]

Now that we’re discussing, apparently seriously, whether Muslims are, as a group, stupid, shall we also ask the same about black people?

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jakelafort wrote:
’ve wondered whether Muslims are innately lower in intelligence.

Wow…just wow. All religions are superstition, but almost all advances in the past have been made in the context of some religion or other. Jews have made many great scientific and mathematical contributions which have changed the source of his…

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