Lars

Simon Paynton wrote:
If we say that the values derived from facts are “obvious”, then we are already assuming values.

Sorry Simon but you are mixing up two different things. First the axioms that ground a moral system. These are incredibly subjective and while someone may put some rational thought into it…they all remain statements which are…[Read more]

A society can bestow rights, whether it be by consensus or legislation.  No human is born with inbuilt rights. They may be born with needs, but unless their social environment chooses to address these, they will not have those needs fulfilled.

The human basic animal may have urges to ‘thrive’ but the human mind often quashes some of those urges.…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
Values cannot be derived from sets of facts.

Of course they can. Values have always come from a hybrid of assumed axioms (highly conceptual moral frameworks and/or dictated norms) along with facts. The first is almost but not entirely exclusive of facts) the second can use facts to various degrees and various use of logic). The…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
It’s a human instinct to wish to treat others ethically,

Then why are most of of tribesmen in the interior of Brazil, remote Africa and Papua New Guinea agressive if not violent to all outsiders who enter their territory…including unarmed women and children? Perhaps you mean treat those within their family unit, perhaps wit…[Read more]

Theoretical rights aren’t irrelevant. Activists in countries without human rights still use a template to fight for them (even if they never arrive). Frequently activists in developing countries aspire (and sometimes citizens) towards a set of high level human rights which could only be realised in one’s fantasies and yet some are. It’s a case of…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
And if my clueless democratic party equates every allegation with automatic guilt we are done for and liberals should hang our heads in shame

Oh God not you too. First of all per your claim that women go for assholes, and by the way that is a ludicrous argument usually made by misogynistic pick up artists…where is your evidence…[Read more]

Asianne wrote:
I think we need to stop this idea that “men are all assholes and women are all victims” because it’s creating a huge divide between men and women.

Jesus Christ who let this cliché mysogenist onto our website? Asianne you perfectly typify the “men are the victim” stereotype. Just spot on. When women fight back…it’s the oh no…po…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:

Davis wrote:
usefulness and the history of belief

All I’m saying is, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a good analogy because it bears no relation to everyday life, whereas the God of Christianity and Islam is intimately connected with everyday life. So, we cannot compare the two.

Any my response is that it is nonsense, a…[Read more]

Asianne wrote:
All these rich bitches complaining is making it more dangerous for those of us who have serious shit happening and now we really have nowhere to turn

Are you trying to say that the experience of rich women who were sexually assaulted is more trivial than poor women who were sexually assaulted? Are you proposing that rich women who…[Read more]

Women have been ignored, not believed or punished for being the victim of abuse, in numbers most of us wouldn’t possibly believe were true if it weren’t for witnesses and the sheer number of people who can attest to a persons sexual sleaziness and assault. A movement has started to stop avoiding the police who often ignore you, fear not the crowd…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
Has the Flying Spaghetti Monster caused a book with genuine wisdom in it, to be written? Does the Flying Spaghetti Monster help people in their everyday lives?

Would you please stop appealing to usefulness and the history of belief of something as somehow relevant to the existance of Gods?. As many of us have been over this…[Read more]