john may

Thanks, Reg!!!

morality is fiendishly intricate and interesting.  That’s why so many people spend their time puzzling over it.

And that is the absolute perfectly evasive Chopra like response. Unseen is right…at some point, time to give it a rest. Should have days ago. And………scene.

Yes Simon, clearly I am just stubborn in my old ways. I am just afraid of your revolutionary, internally consistent, clear and intelligible system that will smash the same ole shit and harbour in a completely new way of doing things. I am simply just afraid of such Earth shattering ideas such as:

• Morality isn’t one thing and can’t be sliced up…

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In the case of morality, the job in hand is to collaborate to thrive and survive together

Yikes.

@davis – so the answer is “just because”.  I’ve identified a weakness that you yourself have agreed with.  I’m sure a moral philosophy professor would not be so dogmatic.

Jesus bloody donkey crackers. What happened to you Simon? Where did you go wrong?

Simon…do you want me to write to every philosopher, political scientist, dictionary, encyclopedia, intellectual and publishing house and try to get them to change the definition and character of “utilitariansim” and “deontological moral systems”? Because if you do…you will have to give me a good reason to other than the fact that some guy, who…[Read more]

 If it is insisted that two complementary systems are mutually exclusive – this is just silly and pointless dogmatism.

And there I thought you were actually capable of conceding anything. My terrible mistake.

If there were two sets of circumstances, with everything the same, and something needed fixing

I guess this is as close as you are capable to conceding something. There are advantages and disadvantages to all moral systems. None of them are inherently correct. None of them possibly could be as morality isn’t written into the fabric of the…[Read more]

It’s pretty boring to be more into defending -isms than doing real philosophy.

I’m not defending anything Simon, I’m calling out your ignorant claim that “the two could be mixed” or whatever. These systems were established generations before we were born. I am not in charge of them nor would me hoping they would change have any effect. Own up to y…[Read more]

It’s not up for debate, that your theories might have something wrong about them?

What deontological ethics are and what utilitarian ethics are…are not my own personal theories. They are well established and their approaches to moral problems cannot be combined any more than oil and water can. If you weren’t so monumentally intellectually lazy a…[Read more]

Don’t you want your theories to be correct?  Or do you just want to maintain your special theories, right or wrong?

Simon, educate yourself a little. I am not arguing with someone that the sky is not blue but green. Pick up some books and read.